Indeed they are better, but still not great. I sold commercial plumbing and heating equipment for about 14 years in the Western NY market. This was back in the late 80's early 90's and no one was happy with the results of those laws that forced on the big manufacturers like American Standard and Kohler. Technology is finally overcoming the issues. But now its been a couple of decades! And, how many consumers and businesses have the crappy crappers from those first attempts? Anyway, I always like talking with you guys! ;-) Off to put the final touches on my new engine install!!!! That makes me smile!