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I agree Stan. There is a 2010 Cayman S 6 speed manual on Panorama classifieds right now. $28k with 93,000 miles, kind of high, but that is the direct injection motor with no IMS issues(post 2009). Older ones can be had for less. It's truly the best used mid-engine sports-car bargain. I'm looking at 2006-2008. I think they are prettier than the new 911. Combo DD and track car for me. And honestly, it's a sports car. I'm not concerned with luggage capacity.

I'm not a big GM fan but that new Vette sure looks good to me.

I drove the 2017 convertible a couple years ago, on the road and track. It was really good. Didn't like the way the rear stepped out a tiny bit off-throttle into a corner above 100 though. Probably the LSD doing it's thing. I've driven many, many front, mid and rear engine vehicles, some of them on track. I don't have all the expertise, but I do understand vehicle dynamics near or at the limit. I've driven the front engine Ferrari California, Merc AMG SL and Vette, mid-engine R8 and Gallardo, and 2012 911 s twin turbo. All on track, same day. Drifting the Gallardo around a turn while my instructor was laughing and offering me a job at the same time: priceless. On another day I drove a Hellcat, Maserati, 360 Modena, Merc C63 AMG and a new standard 911 on the road. I also got the privilege of driving Rich Drewek's 911S, though sadly, not anywhere near it's limit.

Some of you have seen me thrash my Spyder and Toni's poor S2000 at Carlisle Autocross. So you know I'm not full of it.

Mid-engine cars have a higher limit. But if you reach and cross that limit, good luck, it's near impossible to come back from over that edge. That I also have personal experience with. Front engine cars tend to plow, rear engine cars are rear-out(with the nannies turned off). Mid cars are usually neutral, but in the case of the S2000, how you attack the corners determines the handling attitude. Most impressive and magical. The same can be done with a properly tuned Spyder. Left foot trail brake to make the car start rotating, and feed the gas in to keep it there at exit. 

I'm a mid-engine guy.

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