I have a Grizzly Lathe and an Atlas/Clausing mill. Not anywhere near a CNC but truly valuable for one-off stuff for myself and small production stuff. They are no brainer's to operate for anyone who can read a mic. or caliper. Highly recommend to anyone who is even remotely interested in these kinds of machines to bite the bullet and buy them. Occasionally I see them for sale for the same price as a floor hoist (for both too) and of course they would be used at that price. I had them a long time before I bought a hoist !! Now I don't know why I didn't get a hoist years ago. Probably something to do with stooping , crawling, twisting, doing sit-ups, bending ?? Benchwork Rules ! ..........Bruce