Yeah, the VW crowd is a lot about JFL (just for looks) and not a lot of attention to performance. Me, I like scrubbing tires up in the canyons and am the anti JFL guy. If it dose not make it better, what's the point? If you doubt what I say ask some of the guys when I go on the club rides in a stock 72 Super. Always on the bumper in corners. Yeah, I got to control it, but some times I can't help it. Got to go fast man.