@DannyP A 25 lb mountain bike with discs is a very nice bike. You can get a sub 25 lb carbon hardtail with discs and a front fork. 25 lbs could be a race carbon full suspension. When you get more travel in the suspension, the weight starts going up. It's a toss up between wanting to go fast up hill or down hill.
@Gordon Nichols Those E-bikes are porkers, but you can maintain 28 mph with a road version. The mountain version will assist up to 20 mph. It's good to have a buddy with an E-bike in the mix during windy days though. LOL Get your ass up front.
We've been selling the hell out of them. We've sold a few E-mountain bikes, but they're technically not legal on the trails around here. There is no enforcement, so who's going to know. They don't tear up the trails anymore than a regular bike. The Specialized bikes are so sleek, that if you don't know what your looking at, you'd never know it was an E-bike. I'm OK with them.