Are they re-sellers of speedsters, or do they build them?
I think I know the answer, but want to be sure.
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From what I could tell when I was looking, they were an advertiser of replicas, and they may have even had some of the cars they were advertising. I never called, because the idea of any dealer having 20 or more replicas just seemed sketchy.
Resellers. They also buy up a lot of the cars that are for sale and jack up the price to resell.
They sell all sorts of vehicles in all manner of conditions. I even recall seeing them on one of the popular “car flipping” shows on cable a while back. I can’t recall which one though.
I haven’t dealt with them personally but I find myself looking through their inventory every few months to get a “feel” for the resale market.
About 2 years ago I looked at a partially complete Speedster at an Estate Auction in central California. I didn’t buy it, mostly because it needed a LOT of work. I saw it a few months later on that site...with an ENORMOUS mark up!
They have one of mine for 1.5 years now and Chuck Martin's blue JPS coupe has been there for years .
@alan and @bob
alan so they are not able to sell. Hence kept for years?
@bob I called them when I was looking inquiring about their advertise and said the can build. I figure what they mean is build up a use one towards your requirement.
I was not comfortable so I moved on
Reseller of new and used. They leave them on the website months/years after they are sold to get phone calls/leads.
That doesn't seem like an honest business practice - not trimming sold or stale listing on their website. Unless they disclose that fact?
A distributed auto dialer system could be programmed to call their number and leave random inquiry phone calls to tie up their resources until they comply. The same can work with all the incoming scam and phishing type calls. Tie up there inbound calls so the miscreants have to field all the incoming calls.
Trolling for suckers. They are located in San Diego and are a used car dealer. The implication of their marketing is they are somehow the seller of exclusive high ends automobiles in Beverley Hills.
I talked to Carl at BHMC (Beverly Hills Motor Cars) just now, and he encouraged me to think of the 31 speedsters on his site as examples of options I could consider requesting, not as cars still available for sale. Their business now is assembling new cars on shortened VW pans, for which the basic spec is 1915cc, 4 wheel disk brakes, choice of color, all badges, starting at $37k, with a three month wait.
@wrkinprogress @Troy Sloan check with Troy if your looking
I'd be interested in seeing the Bev Hills MC assembly shop.
I'm no lawyer and this isn't legal advice....
CA Law on Deceptive Trade Practices (Bus. & Prof. §17500 et seq)
"It is unlawful for any person, firm, corporation ... concerning any circumstance or matter of fact connected with ... which is untrue or misleading, and which is known, or which by the exercise of reasonable care should be known, to be untrue or misleading, ... any such statement as part of a plan or scheme with the intent not to sell that personal property or those services, professional or otherwise, so advertised at the price stated therein, or as so advertised. "
-=theron
I just browsed their replica speedster inventory, some of those cars shown have been on that site for 2 plus years ... Caveat emptor certainly applies here.
@wrkinprogress posted:I talked to Carl at BHMC (Beverly Hills Motor Cars) just now, and he encouraged me to think of the 31 speedsters on his site as examples of options I could consider requesting, not as cars still available for sale. Their business now is assembling new cars on shortened VW pans, for which the basic spec is 1915cc, 4 wheel disk brakes, choice of color, all badges, starting at $37k, with a three month wait.
I don't believe they are even "assembling new cars," they are just ordering new cars and reselling them to people who haven't done the due diligence and don't know they can order the car directly from a manufacturer for less money.
A few months ago as I was browsing old posts, I found one that included a link to a Bev Hills ad for a speedster for sale. I think the post was at least three years old, and the discussion back then was about how Bev Hills keeps old posts of cars no longer available. And guess what - the link STILL worked, and the car ad was still there as if the car was still for sale. Hard to think anything other than intended deception.
In addition to the non-existent cars on their website, they have multiple (probably 20+) cars listed on Hemmings that they just keep renewing as they expire. Hemmings knows it and does nothing about it.
^Fixed it.
Hemming$ know$ it and doe$ nothing about it.
There’s a lawyer here in Baltimore who recently specialized in suing used car dealers for fraud. I’ve seen about two-three dozen complaints so far, detailing about a dozen common violations of consumer contract, debt, and warranty law plus the inevitable forgeries. By the letter of the law and the ubiquitousness of these violations, this lawyer should get rich.
I plan to check these cases in a few months and see if they get settlements from the major offenders. My guess?
They’ll fight, lose in four years and slither off to bankruptcy court, all assets long since conveyed to relatives and ready to start over.
Fraud has been an excellent business plan for several decades now, as customers of everyone’s favorite South-eastern Speedster manufacturer are well aware.
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@edsnova posted:....There’s a lawyer here in Baltimore who recently specialized in suing used car dealers for fraud...
Doing God's work, is he?
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