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I just use a JBL Charge 3 with a little velcro on the base so it sticks to my carpet and docent roll around. No holes in the dash or speaker holes. No wiring either. I take it with me to play elsewhere as well. I normally use my iPhone on Pandora fo my music. A sound system just doesn't do well in my car because of all the other noise around but this little device does pretty well.  This is just another suggestion/alternative for you.

 Lastly, The thing will also charge my phone. ............Bruce

 

I got hearing aids earlier this month. I can stream music and take calls through them, as well as pick up on some (but nowhere near all) of what I've been missing for years.

I'm 55. That's what a lifetime spent in noisy mechanical rooms without PPE (as well as a misspent youth with every song turned to "11") will get you. More mechanical/electronic crutches to blunt the effects of aging.

A good stereo would be lost on me. 

Well, now that amplification resides a lot closer to your body and in your car it brings other challenges.  

Optometry is much simpler but hearing hair cells damaged are much more complicated to fix. 

Having been involved in this area for many years and having family members spend their life in it,  I thought I would share this info. 

STan for what it is worth, many times hearing guys go for text book hearing ie: following the audiogram loss and plot your hearing replacement to your slope.  

Amplification does not discriminate and simply amplifies all sounds including noise and you start to lose the ability to tune out noise so again ASP and AGC circuits are put in to try to fix this.   

Then there is the one year at least period to retrain how you hear the speech sounds so that you can play a better game of scrabble in daily life. 

I challenge continues when a major hearing loss occurs and to reach the higher frequency losses the choices sometimes is to block the ear canal. 

Unfortunately, while there are many factors that come into play probably one of the most important is your ear canal and that blocking it with a plug, or mold, or a small aid, causes you to lose the 20db of sound which then has to be replaced by amplification.   

Sometimes in the search to match the curve your ear canal is plugged and you lose the bottom frequencies that you normally hear and then you feel like your in a barrel and to take care of that a vent system is enclosed. 

Why is this going on so long?  

Well I have seen so many be given what the clinician feels is the best to match the curve forgetting that even a 50-75% better solution where you have an open basket mold... see below, would allow you tolerate your amplification devices in 2 hours, not a year, allow you to have multiple programs to bend the sound amplification curve and allow you to have a #13 battery or even better a #675.  a BTE, behind the ear rather than a ITC, in the canal aid also would mean less visits to return the unit to the manufacturer (2 week return for some) 

One of the nice features is you will hear the normal bass sound around you while the aid, usually a high frequency boosting amplifier will compensate for the speech sounds and get you functional again in discrimination of speech. 

All in all the hearing industry sometimes is not providing you all the information for you make a sound decision in what you will use.   

Hope this helps someone. 

 

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IaM-Ray posted:

Well, now that amplification resides a lot closer to your body and in your car it brings other challenges.  

Optometry is much simpler but hearing hair cells damaged are much more complicated to fix. 

Having been involved in this area for many years and having family members spend their life in it,  I thought I would share this info. 

STan for what it is worth, many times hearing guys go for text book hearing ie: following the audiogram loss and plot your hearing replacement to your slope.  

Amplification does not discriminate and simply amplifies all sounds including noise and you start to lose the ability to tune out noise so again ASP and AGC circuits are put in to try to fix this.   

Then there is the one year at least period to retrain how you hear the speech sounds so that you can play a better game of scrabble in daily life. 

I challenge continues when a major hearing loss occurs and to reach the higher frequency losses the choices sometimes is to block the ear canal. 

Unfortunately, while there are many factors that come into play probably one of the most important is your ear canal and that blocking it with a plug, or mold, or a small aid, causes you to lose the 20db of sound which then has to be replaced by amplification.   

Sometimes in the search to match the curve your ear canal is plugged and you lose the bottom frequencies that you normally hear and then you feel like your in a barrel and to take care of that a vent system is enclosed. 

Why is this going on so long?  

Well I have seen so many be given what the clinician feels is the best to match the curve forgetting that even a 50-75% better solution where you have an open basket mold... see below, would allow you tolerate your amplification devices in 2 hours, not a year, allow you to have multiple programs to bend the sound amplification curve and allow you to have a #13 battery or even better a #675.  a BTE, behind the ear rather than a ITC, in the canal aid also would mean less visits to return the unit to the manufacturer (2 week return for some) 

One of the nice features is you will hear the normal bass sound around you while the aid, usually a high frequency boosting amplifier will compensate for the speech sounds and get you functional again in discrimination of speech. 

All in all the hearing industry sometimes is not providing you all the information for you make a sound decision in what you will use.   

Hope this helps someone. 

 

Well that was a fine mouthful, Ray. Very informative. What do you have for tinnitus ? 

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I’m with you, Ray. I'm running ReSound behind the ear hearing aids with the "small" ear cushions (the "mediums" itched so badly I couldn't take it). I've had them for about a month. I had tried another brand, but the sound quality wasn't agreeable (way to mechanical, too much gain). These have a reputation of having a better algorithm, but it all sounds worse that I'd hoped. I'm not sure these are any better.

The amazing thing to me is that there are only 6 or 7 companies making hearing aids. You'd think with all the high-end audio equipment, some big player like Bose would get in on the party. None of us are getting younger.

The technology is almost there... but it's that last missing 2% that makes them an "aid" rather than a solution. If it wasn't for the Bluetooth feature allowing me to answer the phone through the hearing aids (and actually hear the other party), I probably would have given up.

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Gordon Nichols posted:

I didn't go for the "retro" look.  I just wanted decent sounding tunes so I have a Pioneer 40-watt head and a couple of door mounted three-way speakers.   Truth be told, I get better sound at interstate speeds with my iPhone and a pair of bluetooth ear buds - I can take phone calls that way, too!

Sorry guys but I think driving with any type of head phones, ear buds etc is against the law...at least in California...with them in you might not hear the ambulance, firetruck or police sirens...so I'm told...

On the lighter side, many golfers wear ear buds too but you're in trouble if you can't hear someone yelling "fore"! 

One ear bud is usually allowed 

Siemens is a pretty good company and their automatic gain control AGC

and ASP auto signal processing makes them more natural sounding

Talk to your guy about an open basket like the one I showed you you might find they are less offensive

and get you to 70% which may be all you need in personal situations 

 

 

Newbie wrote “with (buds) in you might not hear the ambulance, firetruck or police sirens...so I'm told...

I hear this a lot, usually from people who have never tried it.  It is an urban myth for anyone using “normal” audio volume.  I have been riding a bicycle for years and wearing “hang ons” (they are not ear buds, they just hang onto/into your ears) and you can certainly hear nearby birds chirping, kids laughing, dogs barking (always important on a bicycle) and a siren at well over half a mile away.  Same thing for my Otios bluetooth earbuds.  Just think about how loud a Robin chirp can sound at 40 - 50 yards.  

But before you all start to tell me how dangerous my tunefull riding can be (or talking on the phone while riding my bike) and before you believe that ALL states (and all of Canada) feel that using ear buds while driving is illegal, let’s read what the AAA tells us, by state (and obtw, California allows an earbud in one ear while driving).

https://drivinglaws.aaa.com/tag/headsets/

The vast majority of US states allow the use of ear buds while driving with cell/smart phones.  Most do not distinguish between phone calls and on-phone music.

One last thing:   A number of states are now trying to distinguish between “headset” or “earphones” which totally cover the ear, and “earbuds” which hang onto or are inserted into the ear.  The external sound reception characteristics are different for each so this is something that should be defined.

Another last thing:  Many newer hearing aids are now Bluetooth enabled to connect to your smart phone to allow the user to do phone calls and many states allow this.  How can you tell if they are listening to background noise, tunes or a phone call?

And the last, last thing is, Massachusetts has, without doubt, the strictest and most ambiguous anti-headphone law in the country (thou shalt not, period, except but it is OK for me to wear them when I am getting navigation directions from “Siri” on my iPhone to guide my route or to get me home.    

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