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@WNGD posted:

I don't even have any idea whether $65,000 is reasonable any longer in this crazy market.

The proposition is getting pretty skewed. A brand new Club MX5 is $27k, with a warranty and a dealer network. No weird-Al insurance, titling, or service work required.

A nicely appointed C8 'vette comes delivered to your door with a V8 and enough power to bury any replica in a shallow grave for about the same money.

@Stan Galat posted:

The proposition is getting pretty skewed. A brand new Club MX5 is $27k, with a warranty and a dealer network. No weird-Al insurance, titling, or service work required.

A nicely appointed C8 'vette comes delivered to your door with a V8 and enough power to bury any replica in a shallow grave for about the same money.

Hey Stan, as you know, this hobby more and more can't be justified on a cost-vs-the-alternatives basis. Particularly is you're going to compare relative reliability, safety, power etc.

You either love what these represent and the memories you have or the appreciative looks/thumbs up you get, or you can do without the associated hassles/drawbacks.

But there's zero chance you get the same SEG out of a Miata , maybe the C8 in a different kind of way, doubtful you're a Speedster buyer in that case anyways, with a few exceptions.

@WNGD posted:

Hey Stan, as you know, this hobby more and more can't be justified on a cost-vs-the-alternatives basis. Particularly is you're going to compare relative reliability, safety, power etc.

You either love what these represent and the memories you have or the appreciative looks/thumbs up you get, or you can do without the associated hassles/drawbacks.

But there's zero chance you get the same SEG out of a Miata , maybe the C8 in a different kind of way, doubtful you're a Speedster buyer in that case anyways, with a few exceptions.

Amen.

I've always said (and it's even more true now) - if something else will scratch the itch, than by all means: buy that something else.

If not... then welcome to the madness.

A new turnkey Spyder is 60k. Mine cost me half that, and includes heated seats, Webasto cabin heater AND defrost, bluetooth radio/amp/speakers, cable shifter, custom made front sway bar, suspension tuned by me, a killer Raby motor with custom EFI, and soon to be rack and pinion steering. It even includes an 80% fitted emergency top.

Even figuring 40k into it(probably fair) plus my 18k Cayman S Covid special, and I'm WAY ahead of the game. And I have choices! Plus my wife has an old Impreza and we have a Dodge 4x4 truck, so we still go in the snow.

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Yeah, let's not talk about practical, sensible alternatives. Please!

Every once in a while I think about the NA Miata I had. And then I quickly try to think about something else.

Bought it used, two years old, with 30K miles. Kept it for 15 years.

Here's what I poured into it in that time:

- gas

- oil

- one set of spark plug wires

- one clutch slave cylinder ($50)



The, ahem, AC was still blowing cold when I let it go. And why would it not? It was only 17 years old at that point.

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@barncobob posted:

u can get any # of used porsches for $65K

The flip side of that data point is the two late 60’s 911 S’ I saw on eBay for the Buy It Now prices of $196K and $210K. Or this:



The gal I lived with in the 90’s was a LCSW  She had a client who was the CEO of a pretty well known company. We went on vacation one time and none of the rental car companies at the airport had a car he liked, so he had a taxi drive him to a Jaguar dealer and he put an F-type convertible on his Amex  

That’s the kind of people that buy $65-$75K Speedster replicas.  And quarter million dollar 911s.  

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