Anyone know of a source ? Have any of you ever installed them ?...........Bruce
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I’m running limebug on my wide body and I believe James Rudland is running EVO
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Look up @MangoSmoothie.ca
Bruce, please don't turn your Spyder into a white-trash ghetto machine.
Then again, if you keep adding/changing things you'll probably never actually get it finished from Greg. Whatever, dude.
Carry on.
@DannyP posted:Bruce, please don't turn your Spyder into a white-trash ghetto machine.
Then again, if you keep adding/changing things you'll probably never actually get it finished from Greg. Whatever, dude.
Carry on.
I don't know that I've ever considered @MangoSmoothie.ca, @Carrozzino, or any of the other guys that have air suspension on their cars white trash kind of people nor have I considered their cars ghetto machines. What ever happened to the big tent we can all fit under? Or is it a big tent we can all fit under as long as you approve? Or is it because.......gasp....a spyder he's modifying?
Ha Ha..........You guys make me laugh a lot. Sometimes I don't get it but that's OK too.
Absolutely not ! This is the answer to putting bags in my Spyder ! Actually .....I have been thinking of a trailer that is like a "Low Rider". One that will lower completely down to the ground so that I could drive the Spyder on to it such that it would hardly be noticed that it's over a trailer. Then raise it. I've been using my scale model Spyder to play with a "T" trailer but scrapped that Idea. The Spyder is about 5' wide. That gives me 1.5' on each side to incorporate air bags and linkage and stay inside 8' wide. perhaps do it all in aluminum.
This is how I put myself to sleep at night !...............Bruce
@aircooled posted:Ha Ha..........You guys make me laugh a lot. Sometimes I don't get it but that's OK too.
Absolutely not ! This is the answer to putting bags in my Spyder ! Actually .....I have been thinking of a trailer that is like a "Low Rider". One that will lower completely down to the ground so that I could drive the Spyder on to it such that it would hardly be noticed that it's over a trailer. Then raise it. I've been using my scale model Spyder to play with a "T" trailer but scrapped that Idea. The Spyder is about 5' wide. That gives me 1.5' on each side to incorporate air bags and linkage and stay inside 8' wide. perhaps do it all in aluminum.
This is how I put myself to sleep at night !...............Bruce
Take a look at Futura Trailers. They have a pulley system that is used to raise and lower the trailer right at the hub. They used to use winch cable but have switched to, I believe, nylon rope. I'm not sure why because I would think that with most people storing trailers outside the cable would last longer but I'm not an engineer just a guy who sees all of the trailers rotting away in the storage yard where my trailer is stored.
Robert, I was half joking. Don't be so serious, dude.
It's a Spyder thing for sure. And no, I don't consider Mango's car trash at all. His car is tasteful in every sense of the word, even with bags.
But you know, chrome wheels, spinners, LED/neon underlights, and slamming to the ground kinda is trashy, don't ya think? You know that tacky Spyder Greg did with the box of Monopoly cash in the the frunk? THAT!
Bruce, I've seen trailers that drop to the ground and have no need for ramps, then lift up and drive away. I can certainly see you building your own with your skillset.
I like that Futura trailer.
Thanks for the sources guys ! The Futura and Ocala trailers are sort of what I have in mind. Specifically, I would like a trailer that will lower like those, be specifically designed for the car it will haul, be lighter, single axle, no brakes, cheaper and simpler to operate.
Thought some of you would get a kick out of my "T" trailer scale model for a Spyder photos. Scale: 1 to 18..................Bruce
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Wow. That Futura trailer is (a.) VERY trick and (b.) VERY well thought out.
A place for everything (even seldom used features) and well executed so that people who only trailer occasionally will feel comfortable getting loaded and underway, Safely.
Puts my old trailer to shame (and that was a very good trailer, too!)
I still haven't figured out how the Futura actually runs the front of the bed up and down. Hydraulic? Cables? Hoonery Magic? I dunno......
@aircooled posted:Thanks for the sources guys ! The Futura and Ocala trailers are sort of what I have in mind. Specifically, I would like a trailer that will lower like those, be specifically designed for the car it will haul, be lighter, single axle, no brakes, cheaper and simpler to operate.
Thought some of you would get a kick out of my "T" trailer scale model for a Spyder photos. Scale: 1 to 18..................Bruce
What's supporting the front end of the Spyder Bruce?
The Futura trailer uses a drop axle system. I found this website which shows the underside of the trailer so you can get a better look at the pulley system and the axles in the raised position. https://www.rockstrailersales....0lower%20or%20raise.
@Gordon Nichols posted:Wow. That Futura trailer is (a.) VERY trick and (b.) VERY well thought out.
A place for everything (even seldom used features) and well executed so that people who only trailer occasionally will feel comfortable getting loaded and underway, Safely.
Puts my old trailer to shame (and that was a very good trailer, too!)
I still haven't figured out how the Futura actually runs the front of the bed up and down. Hydraulic? Cables? Hoonery Magic? I dunno......
The front of the bed is just pivoting on the trailer ball. The magic all happens at the axles. Here's the website for the company but the one I linked in my response to Bruce shows the underside of the trailer and the cable system. The rear pivots the most and the forward axle pivots some and all of that is held up by the trailer ball.
@aircooled posted:Thought some of you would get a kick out of my "T" trailer scale model for a Spyder photos. Scale: 1 to 18..................Bruce
That trailer looks like what was once used for dragging around a sand rail. I guess you could weld a bit of channel, or whatever, on the front beam to support it and to slide up onto it. I think that could totally be done.
Unfortunately, The Spyder is SO low that that bit of channel would be SO close to the ground. I made some tow points/tow bar attachments to the two front frame tubes. I hit them on the road every so often.
I had two 1/18 scale Spyders before I even ordered my actual fake Spyder.
Very neat engineering. I daydream about adapting a small boat trailer to carry a Spyder. All-up weight under 1800 pounds, I could see an aluminum T with a front crossmember added to carry the deck.
To make it kneel for loading, how about this: mount the axle and suspension through a C channel running upside-down under each side. Leaf springs are held at each end with a piece of box steel that fits in the channels. The steel has rollers ahead and behind the trunions/spring bushings. There’s a cable attached to the axle that runs forward to a winch, and backwards to a pulley, then forward to the same winch. You pull four bolts, crank the handle one way, the axle rolls forward uuntil the tail sits down. Lock it there, winch the car on, then unlock and crank the handle the opposite way until the backside lifts and the holes line up and you put the lock bolts back in.
Robert........The front of the Spyder is supported by a concave roller in the center on top of the top tube. There would be a pin to secure the roller to that tube.
Carlos.......I was thinking about mounting a ball bearing roller that retracts up into the car just in front of the torsion tubes of the front axle. This way it's out of the way when not in use. Perhaps use a screw type electric linear actuator to retract it up out of the way.
The mystery for me is how to make the trailer "kneel". Airbags with a cantilever suspension perhaps ? Or maybe just a simple bell crank ? Maybe it's possible to just use airbags hooked up directly. They seem to collapse in and onto themselves.
I haven't watched this, Bruce, but here's a guy with a bagged trailer project on YouTube.
Those vids—and that project—are the bomb.
Problem with most trailers that you drive on is that you cannot open the doors without hitting the trailer fenders ,
Maybe not as much problem with a 550 as it has short doors or you could jump over the door ! ,
@JMM (Michael) posted:I haven't watched this, Bruce, but here's a guy with a bagged trailer project on YouTube.
Here's part 2: