Badges.....(there’s a bad joke here somewhere!)

Can someone help me with a list of the badges I need to make my speedster period correct...I know I need the Porsche crest for the hood handle....what else is typically on a correct speedster? Also - how hard are these to install? Looks like it’s some drilling and rivet gun. 

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Blake posted:

Can someone help me with a list of the badges I need to make my speedster period correct...I know I need the Porsche crest for the hood handle....what else is typically on a correct speedster? Also - how hard are these to install? Looks like it’s some drilling and rivet gun. 

Gimme time to make some popcorn..........

Well, my 2¢. I’ve had the badges for almost 9 years. First they were glued on and didn’t stay on and looked bad. Then, I did a repaint and replaced the badges with ones drilled through and they look much better.

However, with that being said, if I had to do it all over again, I’d skip the badges.

Whenever someone asks me what it is (usually, what year is it?) I always answer, a replica of a ‘58.

The replica bit sometimes goes in one ear and out the other and people see the car and get joy because they think they’ve seen an original.

When people approach me in a parking lot, I give them the same answer and some give the impression that they’re trying to catch me in a fraud and call me out and are disappointed when they can’t. Others just are shocked and talk about how cool it is.

If I had to do it over again, I’d remove that one hint of acting like a fraud.

I got it because I love the design, love to drive it, wouldn’t spend the money on an original, and enjoy the modern engineering upgrades, NOT because I’m a Porsche snob or want to convince people the car or me are something that we’re not.


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All the script badges come with mounting pins on the back.  They aren't typically long enough to use the lock nut on the back side but you could Dremel the FG to accommodate.  Many just drill holes and use silicon to hold them on.  The right side REUTTER badge could be riveted on (OEM) but I used small stainless steel screws with nyloc nuts in the fender well. There is a Meister Schaften gold round badge frequent on the dash too.

Try Klassee356/com for badges - their online catalog has pictures and where used. 

https://klasse356.com/catalog/...ems.asp?Category=EMB

 

Do a search for ‘emblems’and ‘emblem placement’ - there is quite a bit of helpful info on this site. The links noted above are very helpful, too.

I ordered my badges and emblems from stoddards.com. Not cheap, but I liked the quality.

I decided to use a clear drying emblem adhesive. There are a variety of options available at any auto parts store (3M, Permatex, and others). Using an adhesive requires that the studs on the backs of each emblem be ground off flush before mounting, but if you take your time and are careful it’s a fairly simple task.

Finally, there are wide ranging thoughts and philosophies (on this site and others) regarding adding the P badges to replica cars, from those totally opposed . . . . to those all in. I feel like - badges aside - I’m already emulating an original car with just simply the body shape and style, why not just go ‘all in’? After all, I had the car built for ME, not anyone else, I love the way it looks with the badging details, and ultimately I am completely comfortable explaining to anyone what the car IS, and also, what the car is NOT.

When I replaced the Speedster script on the side, the new emblems had posts in different locations.  I tried several methods to stick it on which eventually failed.  So, I used these guys:

https://www.adhesivetemplates.com/

They took my emblem and made the adhesive stuff to fit it.  They say they can work with scanned images but I think them working from the actual emblem is better.

In my case, they even picked up and delivered the emblem.  They are about 100 miles away.  I think the girl wanted to see my car.

I left one post on the emblem to locate it in an old hole.

So far it is sticking well.

@Blake if you opt to get the front and rear “Porsche” text, make sure you get the 356A one. There is a difference between the Porsche logo/text on the 356A and 356B/C. Mine are the later, and it bugs me every time. And of course they are drilled in; and the 356A Porsche text won’t cover the holes-as they are difference sizes. So I will leave it until I need paint. 

Also, the Reutter badge only goes on the passenger side. Another little thing that bugs me about my car as I have a Reutter badge on my driver side as well. 

Michael McKelvey posted:

When I replaced the Speedster script on the side, the new emblems had posts in different locations.  I tried several methods to stick it on which eventually failed.  So, I used these guys:

https://www.adhesivetemplates.com/

They took my emblem and made the adhesive stuff to fit it.  They say they can work with scanned images but I think them working from the actual emblem is better.

In my case, they even picked up and delivered the emblem.  They are about 100 miles away.  I think the girl wanted to see my car.

I left one post on the emblem to locate it in an old hole.

So far it is sticking well.

@Blake @Michael McKelvey

Mike posted it before I could but there have been some members who have used this service and swear by it.

And I'll say it because, well, it needs to be said, "Badges? We ain't got no badges! We don't need no badges! I don't have to show you any stinking badges!".

Total fraud-boy here with the Spyder build. I figure putting the Spyder and P emblems on it are the least I can do after making the 5-hole inner rocker panels, cutting the grill slats, extending the frame for functional jack points, relocating the fuel filler, etc. and soforth in a vain effort to make the car look as "real" as is feasible. 

I also got a big kick out of doing dozens of similar (and subtle) modifications to my British Coach Works Model 52 MG TD replica to make it look as close to a real-deal, $13,000 driver-quality TD as possible. 

Some guys in this hobby are just bent that way.

All respect (and some envy) though to the people who tack the opposite way. 

Robert M posted:
Michael McKelvey posted:

When I replaced the Speedster script on the side, the new emblems had posts in different locations.  I tried several methods to stick it on which eventually failed.  So, I used these guys:

https://www.adhesivetemplates.com/

They took my emblem and made the adhesive stuff to fit it.  They say they can work with scanned images but I think them working from the actual emblem is better.

In my case, they even picked up and delivered the emblem.  They are about 100 miles away.  I think the girl wanted to see my car.

I left one post on the emblem to locate it in an old hole.

So far it is sticking well.

@Blake @Michael McKelvey

Mike posted it before I could but there have been some members who have used this service and swear by it.

And I'll say it because, well, it needs to be said, "Badges? We ain't got no badges! We don't need no badges! I don't have to show you any stinking badges!".

Thanks Robert - I was hopeful someone would state the obvious reply! My faith is restored in the groups ability to never miss an opportunity to throw out a quip! 👍🏻

I drilled the holes and mounted the Spyder emblems, Porsche script and crest on my Spyder. It's very hair-raising if you're doing it on a painted car. But it can be done, carefully. I also made an underliner for the crest just like the original Spyders had. However, phenolic board is just about impossible to find, so I used modern epoxy board.

I did a repaint on a Corrado once. Water-based red fades big-time. anyway, new emblems were real expensive. I removed the OE double-sided emblem tape. Then used some Wurth thin double-sided foam tape, probably exactly the same as the 3M.

I did the same thing with a piece of glass and an X-acto knife. The results were perfect, and I drove the car for a few more years after the repaint. Emblems still looked good when I sold it.

 

Last night I was reading various articles about the Beck 904. I stumbled across an article on some Porsche-centric website, where, of course, drew debate over the fact it was a replica. 

Well, I found a response I had to share (which I believe is applicable to the post about Porsche logos on a replica):

 

 

“One of the posts above reads:

‘What you would have is a car masquerading as something it is not’

Hell, Porsche itself does this...
it's called a Turbo-look (widebody, C4S, whatever you want to call it).

This is what I have a real problem with.

-DT”

Jim Kelly posted:

So, what Kevin's poster seems to be saying is that, even if Porsche does the design, it's not true to the Porsche ethos if this wanker doesn't approve.

Just when you think you have witnessed the height of arrogance of Porsche owners, along comes a guy that raises the bar.

Ok, that's really, really funny, Jim!

Having many things to buy for my JPS Coupe, I thought it would be nice to pick up small pieces of “Jewlery” for the car while I was sorting out the big stuff. You know, a “1600” here, a gold “Porsche” there. I started researching some resources on this site and that is when I came across the opinions and had to give it some thought. Would I be telling some kinda lie if I built my car true to the Original? My thought was that I am putting together a car I never thought I could have. Ever! I knew that I wanted it to look as exacting as possible, right down to the emblems. It isn’t to trick anybody, only to please myself. You will always hear from both sides, and some people will be indignant about it. Living your dream, how big or how small is the ultimate goal. What got me started into looking at these little cars was watching  Jeff Zwart’s video “The Porsche from the Winter of 53”. Here was this guy, throwing his lil’ car around  in the snow and just having a ball doing it. The grinning and laughing, well I wanted that to be me. Now my Tupperware Coupe Is not the same as his little Pre A 356, but the enjoyment is real and unlike any experience I have had driving any one of my former “Hot Rods”. So “Acting like a fraud” is taking things a little too harshly. Don’t feel guilty about building your Speedster to please your desires. If someone drives by and gives the thumbs up, I give them the peace sign back. If someone walks up to me and wants to know more, I tell them exactly what it is. The response has always been positive. Two guys came up to me last week and asked if it was a Ferrari, because they saw the horse on the hood handle. Well, let’s just say that conversation went on a little bit longer than most.

Enjoy!

I love these little replica cars because I love the style of the original cars. We can drive the wheels off of our replica cars where most if not all of us would never drive a fully restored original Speedster. So badge them or not, your choice. I have yet to be pulled over by the trademark police, but who knows? In the mean time, I am enjoying the heck out of my recently finished Speedster Replica. I drove it to work and back in 30 degree weather today thanks to the Subaru water cooled engine and heat setup. Should I replace the Porsche emblem with a Subaru emblem? speedster conversion 88

 

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Having many things to buy for my JPS Coupe, I thought it would be nice to pick up small pieces of “Jewlery” for the car while I was sorting out the big stuff. You know, a “1600” here, a gold “Porsche” there. I started researching some resources on this site and that is when I came across the opinions and had to give it some thought. Would I be telling some kinda lie if I built my car true to the Original? My thought was that I am putting together a car I never thought I could have. Ever! I knew that I wanted it to look as exacting as possible, right down to the emblems. It isn’t to trick anybody, only to please myself. You will always hear from both sides, and some people will be indignant about it. Living your dream, how big or how small is the ultimate goal. What got me started into looking at these little cars was watching  Jeff Zwart’s video “The Porsche from the Winter of 53”. Here was this guy, throwing his lil’ car around  in the snow and just having a ball doing it. The grinning and laughing, well I wanted that to be me. Now my Tupperware Coupe Is not the same as his little Pre A 356, but the enjoyment is real and unlike any experience I have had driving any one of my former “Hot Rods”. So “Acting like a fraud” is taking things a little too harshly. Don’t feel guilty about building your Speedster to please your desires. If someone drives by and gives the thumbs up, I give them the peace sign back. If someone walks up to me and wants to know more, I tell them exactly what it is. The response has always been positive. Two guys came up to me last week and asked if it was a Ferrari, because they saw the horse on the hood handle. Well, let’s just say that conversation went on a little bit longer than most.

Enjoy!

It is your car, you get to do whatever you want based on what makes you happy. Enjoy!!

IMG_2784IMG_2755IMG_2810My car is. Frankenstein of badges.  Front hood handle is Intermeccanica,  Steering wheel is Porshe, rear of car is Porsche with impossible to find small Carrera Script in chrome. ( sourced in the UK circa 2011)..  Open the engine lid and there is a Subaru Turbo with its stock cover and badging.  It's my car and it's all good.   Gives you a lot talk about at gas stations and at cars and coffee.  

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Hi Kevin,

Thanks for your clarification above regarding the "Turbo-look" or M491 package.  Your explanation of the poster's comments make much more sense than mine. 

While I have learned quite a bit over the years about Speedsters in general and our replicas, I don't have lots of knowledge about Porsche's in general, so DT's post about Porsche itself copping out with a turbo look went right over my head.

Not only did you straighten me out, but you did it in a nice way.  Good on ya!

Marty Grzynkowicz posted:

IMG_2784IMG_2755IMG_2810My car is. Frankenstein of badges.  Front hood handle is Intermeccanica,  Steering wheel is Porshe, rear of car is Porsche with impossible to find small Carrera Script in chrome. ( sourced in the UK circa 2011)..  Open the engine lid and there is a Subaru Turbo with its stock cover and badging.  It's my car and it's all good.   Gives you a lot talk about at gas stations and at cars and coffee.  

Marty....always admired your car. I'm now wondering about "correct" badging for my lower end Roadster recently acquired. 

Mine is an older model IM Roadster which I think might be a replica of a 1959 Convertible D. If that is so ( and is your's also ?  ) , what overall badging do you have installed please ?  Right front fender behind the wheel ..Drauz ?  I've researched a bit and have conflicting results. I see you have Carrera on the rear but I've seen other examples with 1600 Super back there under the Porsche badge. Any leads to a definitive show and tell of what is correct ? Do you have a PORSCHE script on the dash board passenger side or " Roadster"  ? thanks.

Dave I took the the liberty to do it I thought it looked cool.   I have a Carrera style bumper trim and that is why I went with the Carrera Finned rear deck lid and Script.   Porsche never made a Carrera roadster (Convert D)

I still have the Intermecanica badge  that Henry puts on all of his cars right fender lower.    I think it's cool because it shows how long they have been in business and the "made in Vancouver" stamped into it.  

Sierra Madre used to sell the “D” badge. From the site:

“In 1958, Porsche realized that the Speedster model would need significant improvements to maintain the sales and interest in US market and around the world. 1959 was a transitional year for Porsche since they built only 1330 cars before they introduced the Roadster model in late 1959. The "D" emblem was only installed right after the Speedster script on the left side only. Hardware is included.”

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