My parents smoked, none died of it, but it was hard to walk into the kitchen (*3 pack a day volume) and be able to see let alone breathe 
I sure was glad when my mother quit at 54y.o. you could see where you were going after that.
I like the smell of a good pipe tobacco but never took up the habit, I just don't desire even a remotely compromised end to my life that's almost inevitable.
My mother and father were outliers in the 1960's and they didn't smoke and didn't allow it in their home. That was a difficult decision in that era and they lost a few friends or the ability to host neighborhood parties over it. My Mother tells a story of a neighbor asking for an ashtray and telling her she didn't have any in the house. "That's OK, I'll just use the saucer of your nice china". Uh-oh....she left in a huff.
My wife has controlled asthma and he own Mother came to our house for the first time. Repeat scene; she asked for an ashtray and I said we didn't own one since it aggravated her daughter's breathing but very *tactfully* suggested she might enjoy the porch. This would have been 1988 and she didn't return to that house once in 7 years 
As for me, I've lost too many friends and family members to various cancers (breast, throat, bone) to ever take up a habit that might add me to the list.
@Lane Anderson posted:My Beck Speedster smoked a little if I really got on it.
Good recovery from that marvelous thread drift. It's easy to drift when you get excited thinking about life's experiences we all have and want to share those with others. I'm sorry I got off course, but reading Michaels post made me think of my Dad and that lead to a story. On track, I look far and wide for a nice used Beck just because they built their own frames. I sat in one and it did have more room as well. Went I was ready to buy a speedster Beck was 3 years out on builds. I'm in my 70's so I ended up ordering a pan based car here in California because its closer (5 hours drive) and I could drop in as it was being built. I got in with a 12 month wait time. I talked to Greg today and he is still on schedule for my build. I hope to drive it to the 2022 SLO run. We will see ...........
I never smoked either lol
@Butcher Boy, you can have great fun in a properly built pan-based car, and Greg is the guy to go to for one of those. Keep us posted on colors, mechanical specs, etc. We love following build threads.
There's nothing wrong with a pan if you fit in the available space.
Nothing.
@Butcher Boy posted:Good recovery from that marvelous thread drift. It's easy to drift when you get excited thinking about life's experiences we all have and want to share those with others. I'm sorry I got off course, but reading Michaels post made me think of my Dad and that lead to a story. On track, I look far and wide for a nice used Beck just because they built their own frames. I sat in one and it did have more room as well. Went I was ready to buy a speedster Beck was 3 years out on builds. I'm in my 70's so I ended up ordering a pan based car here in California because its closer (5 hours drive) and I could drop in as it was being built. I got in with a 12 month wait time. I talked to Greg today and he is still on schedule for my build. I hope to drive it to the 2022 SLO run. We will see ...........
I never smoked either lol
Well I am sure it will Pan Out for you
Being close to Greg is a no brainer! Choosing your local buider, is a win win all around.
@Lane Anderson posted:@Butcher Boy, you can have great fun in a properly built pan-based car, and Greg is the guy to go to for one of those. Keep us posted on colors, mechanical specs, etc. We love following build threads.
What I have ordered is a speedster powered by Subaru, a built Rancho trans with independent and 3:44 gear. All the usual Greg touches for gearing, 4 wheel disc, under dash E brake, Heat and AC, 12 gal gas tank filler cap in the front hood. I went with the GT bumpers, GT deck lid, hard toneau cover with dual helmet farings. also ordered a half and full toneau for variety. I choose Slate Gray with Baseball glove colored interior and gray square loop carpet with Baseball vinyl trim to match. I went with the Rudge style wheels ( as they say, " only cry once! " I had the seats made 1 inch wider so I have a little room to move. also asked for little touches like bringing the dash cover all the way to the end of the dash alined with the door rail. I plan to drive the wheels off this thing so don't be surprised if I pull into your run back east someday to meet you guys.
I smoked from the mid 70’s to the mid 90’s. I got sober in 89. It took 7 more years, and being deathly ill and hucking up a half pint of lung butter in an Atlanta hotel room, to finally quit smoking.
The Urgent Care doc that treated my walking pneumonia was only too happy to write me an Rx for the patch and I haven’t had a cigarette since that morning.
By far the hardest of my vices to put behind me.
"...I plan to drive the wheels off this thing so don't be surprised if I pull into your run back east someday to meet you guys."
Fan-damn-tastic! Make a cross-country trip (with lots of pics, of course) and then to the Tour de Smo'. Perfect!
BTW, you're welcome to join us in a rental after a cross-country flight if you want. We don't judge.
I love the idea of a pipe. I love the smell, and think the old-school, Father-Knows-Best vibe is a completely different thing than cigarettes. My wife grew up with a smoker (her dad) - and while she can't stand the smell of cigarettes, she loves the smell of a pipe.
None of that was enough to make me hate my lungs enough to take it up as a habit.
But my current plan (at 58) is to start living as dangerously as possible on or about my 75th birthday (should I make it that long). My people are not especially long-lived, nor do they age well. We tend to be strong and robust, then fall off a proverbial cliff. Other people have golden years. We don't really.
As such, I'm absolutely buying the fastest motorcycle I can manage, which I plan to ride like I stole. Perhaps a pipe at that point in time might prove to be a good move as well.
I watched both my parents die from cigarette smoking related diseases (lung to bone to brain cancer in my mom, esophageal adenocarcinoma in my father). I wish nobody smoked, piped, or chewed, but it's not up to me.
@Butcher Boy posted:What I have ordered is a speedster powered by Subaru, a built Rancho trans with independent and 3:44 gear. All the usual Greg touches for gearing, 4 wheel disc, under dash E brake, Heat and AC, 12 gal gas tank filler cap in the front hood. I went with the GT bumpers, GT deck lid, hard toneau cover with dual helmet farings. also ordered a half and full toneau for variety. I choose Slate Gray with Baseball glove colored interior and gray square loop carpet with Baseball vinyl trim to match. I went with the Rudge style wheels ( as they say, " only cry once! " I had the seats made 1 inch wider so I have a little room to move. also asked for little touches like bringing the dash cover all the way to the end of the dash alined with the door rail. I plan to drive the wheels off this thing so don't be surprised if I pull into your run back east someday to meet you guys.
It's going to be extraordinary. 
Yes it is. I'm particularly jealous of the Rudge style wheels.
@Stan Galat On behalf of your loved ones I hope you won't view 75 or any other number as your sell-by date. You're always going to be worth more to society for your comments than for your corneas.
When I taught Web Developer classes I used http://deathclock.com/ as an example of how to implement website cookies in Javascript. This summer I hope to prove the site's calculations unreliable as it has me down for then. Whenever I go I want it to surprise people, so they say "Gee, he wasn't acting very dead at all this morning."
I know it's not what you intended, but I checked that deathclock, @wrkinprogress. I found out my sell-by is Aug 18, 2036 - which would make me 72. This is a few years ahead of when my dad tapped out, but a good 10 or so after my grandfather did. It's probably not that far off.
Maybe I'll buy that Triumph Thruxton and take up the pipe a bit before 75.
Everybody thinks their gonna' beat the odds, but the last time I checked: the reaper still bats 1.000.
Far be it for me to tell anyone how to live their life. If Stan wants a motorcycle and a pipe when he's 75 that's up to him.
I had a response posted about the weather thread, and deleted it. It simply would have done no good for anyone.
Live and let live.
Buy a bike. Smoke a pipe. Have a glass of Scotch.
Just don't buy a 359 or a Perry D Spyder. That peeves me big-time!
Get off my lawn, while you're at it.
Just don't buy a 359 or a Perry D Spyder. That peeves me big-time!
Get off my lawn, while you're at it. BWAAHAHAAAAA
WELL, Dan Blocker (Hoss Cartwright on Bonanza) liked his Perry D. Big guy. He'd never fit in a Spyder/Speedster/Coupe. (His Perry D was french blue).
I don't know what that red car is, but it's NOT a Perry D.
I've got the over on Stan. I'll let you know when you can place a wager. Vegas is not going to post a spread until there is enough interest. But so far, they're listening.