Beck Super Coupe #1 Build Thread

I’m looking forward to seeing it on April 5th. Maybe I’ll even get a chance to ride in @chines1 car.

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Good for you, Lane! And congratulations to “Team Hines” for taking the road of excellence.

Patience can be difficult but the anticipation of a well engineered coupe is priceless...

 

I'm happy for you, Lane.  But sad that the SOC guys won't get a chance to put your car together at Carlisle.  I thought we were establishing a tradition here.

Keep that anticipation under control, now...too many sleeps to go.

Wow, Lane---it is quite something to see your car starting it's road to completion.  I know you are excited.  I was super stoked just about the engine build for my Speedster but to be having an entire car done is something---especially #3 of what will be a long series.  The car Carey is bringing to Carlisle will be the talk of this year's event, I know and I can't wait to see it.  Congratulations, buddy.  

Wow! Wow! Wow! This is going to be fun to follow! Good stuff, Lane!

Two thumbs way up for you, Lane! 

Thanks, guys.  Carey tells me that all of the SC production planned for this year is spoken for, so there is obviously a lot of interest in a Coupe with the performance potential of this car.  While we all love the idea of originality, the improvement in all aspects of performance is hard to argue with.  The migration of this new chassis design to the Speedster will be a great improvement to their product line.

@Lane Anderson- Can you quickly give us a list of suspension, trans and engine details?

Here's what is known so far:

Wow. Spectacular. I’m speechless, although I did just manage to mumble to my wife  “put the house up for sale tomorrow” so that I can get in line for one!

Dude. 

"Standard Beck steering column with crush coupler"     delete .....

sub ....

ididit. column

Looks like a VERY nice spec-sheet. Go for the good brakes, you'll need them.

Oslo is nice, but I'm really liking that Albert Blue 904. My friend had a 72 911T in that color, and it holds an important place in my heart. 

nice one here

Hi Lane,

Welcome to the coupe brotherhood, the spec is amazing. Go with a bold color

Eddy

Agree on going bold. I am planning on Ossi blue for my repaint. When you are out driving around, take a minute to look at the colors on most cars. You will notice a sea of white, silver and mostly very dark toned colors. Bring back some vibrancy!

 

I could go either way with a 356A or Pre-A in terms of factory or outlaw. IMHO, they are equally awesome. When it comes to the 356B and C, the difference in appearance between the two styles (factory and outlaw) are polar opposites of each other. The outlaw version of the B & C is one of the sickest cars going. But the factory version, well, not so much. 

A wonderful photographer recently shot both at the same time and posted the photos to her IG. Crazy to see the difference in styling between factory and outlaw when they are next to one another. 

Move also attached a few other photos I saved over time of an outlaw 356B and C. 

 

...pant-pant-pant, ok, let's see...if I sell my Speedster that just had the Suby transplant, cashed in my CD's and took my inheritance money and got in line, I might be able to have that car by 2020-sumpthin'... I had an SC coupe back in the 70's and it was one of the best running cars I've ever owned..

Kevin - Bay Area posted:

I could go either way with a 356A or Pre-A in terms of factory or outlaw. IMHO, they are equally awesome. When it comes to the 356B and C, the difference in appearance between the two styles (factory and outlaw) are polar opposites of each other. The outlaw version of the B & C is one of the sickest cars going. But the factory version, well, not so much. 

A wonderful photographer recently shot both at the same time and posted the photos to her IG. Crazy to see the difference in styling between factory and outlaw when they are next to one another. 

Move also attached a few other photos I saved over time of an outlaw 356B and C. 

 

Love the Outlaw look in this model.  It really makes the car look that much more substantial. 

Ok, more support for bright colors. This is the look I am shooting for ...

Lane:  Here is a good outlaw look for your coupe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzQQyA9g2Ws

Bob: IM S6 posted:

Lane:  Here is a good outlaw look for your coupe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzQQyA9g2Ws

On this, and a few other 'Outlaws' I have seen, the front and rear windows are lacking the metal trim, while the side windows still have the metal trim.  Any idea what that is about?  Is there any advantage or disadvantage to the window trim?

Bob: IM S6 posted:

Lane:  Here is a good outlaw look for your coupe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzQQyA9g2Ws

You read my mind, Bob.  Very close to what I’m going for.

Good man.  That’s the look you want.  

Mean and lean...

Interior delete?

Nope.  It’ll have Speedster seats (with headrests) and a rollbar, but it should be a comfortable place to spend some time.

Todd M posted:

Bob: IM S6 posted:

Lane:  Here is a good outlaw look for your coupe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzQQyA9g2Ws

On this, and a few other 'Outlaws' I have seen, the front and rear windows are lacking the metal trim, while the side windows still have the metal trim.  Any idea what that is about?  Is there any advantage or disadvantage to the window trim?

I'm going to guess the trim is left off the front and rear windows to give the car a different look- with the windows being surrounded by rubber, it's easy to do. It's like leaving the window trim off a Beetle when building a 'Cal Look' car. I'll also guess that the side windows on a 356 coupe, being constructed and finished differently, don't lend themselves easily to a simple trim delete. Doesn't mean a guy couldn't paint those pieces the body color- I think that would look pretty cool. Al

Carey is doing a glue-in type windshield (and rear window) arrangement and the original style of rubber seal won't work, meaning that the bright trim won't work either.  They tried, but it's a no-go for now.  Certainly won't be a problem on outlaws like mine.  The painted black strip on the prototype is thicker than on the production model.  It will be less obvious on subsequent cars.  I can't get to facebook at work to post the pictures of the prototype at Sebring but will do so when I get home if @chines1 hasn't by then.

Here's a video of a 356C in the probable color combo.  The poster reserves the right to change his mind at any time up to painting.  All rights reserved.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouMMmEOpA5M

Had a long conversation with Carey about options, etc., on Friday.  The body is still curing in the mold.  They will be getting the chassis from Chuck this week or next and things will start happening quickly.

Reminder: Overall style will be much like this, but in a lighter color.

https://silodrome.com/porsche-356-outlaw-car/

Bob: IM S6 posted:

Lane:  Here is a good outlaw look for your coupe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzQQyA9g2Ws

Nice colours but did you look at the rain gutter ...ooo... it needs a bit of work...  

No matter.  That's areal one that somebody else bought.  I just like the colors.

If you look at the bright window trim on modern cars with glue-in windshields (all cars, today) or the slightly older cars with slip-in rubber gaskets, all of them have a small groove in the rubber to accept a small lip on the trim piece so that, once inserted, overall tension keeps the trim in place.  

Both the cut in the rubber and the small lip on the trim piece have to match perfectly BUT all of that stuff is custom tooled and costs $$$$$$$ because it's hard to keep the integrity of the small lip, perpendicular to the flat-ish surface of the trim, as you form the trim piece around flat, radiused corners.  This calls for sophisticated tooling and, since the part volume is low it pushes the piece part cost really high - Something the builder has to consider in his overall cost.  Carey and I talked about this years ago when they were in the thinking stages of coming up with a coupe line.  Lots of things to consider that we all might never think of.

The same is true for Speedster windshield frames - They arrive fully formed with the requisite three bends to the shape of the windshield (more-or-less) because you need some interesting (and semi-expensive) tooling to make those curves without distorting the metal and making it pleat or wrinkle at the bends.

Metal Forming 201, and things that make you go "hmmmmmmm......."

Come to think of it (and now having looked closely at the windshield on my Rogue), Carey is taking a really smart approach, and that is to mold a small step around the windshield opening to fit the windshield onto.  (I'm guessing, here, but it makes a lot of sense). 

Run a bead of adhesive around the opening's step, place the windshield glass carefully in place and fit it X/Y so that the gap all around is about the same as the door and hood gaps and you're done.  

"You don' need no steenkin bright trim and it steel looks Muy Guapo!"

This is going to be a beauty when finished. I'm hoping to get on the list & have my own in late 2020.....

Better hurry then.  All the 2019 production run is spoken for and I think they’re already into 2020.

Glad to have more mid engine Subie Coupes out there. Come and Get'm gang.

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Cheers,

Chris

Gotta actually upload those images, Chris.

Lane Anderson posted:

Carey is doing a glue-in type windshield (and rear window) arrangement and the original style of rubber seal won't work, meaning that the bright trim won't work either.  They tried, but it's a no-go for now.  Certainly won't be a problem on outlaws like mine.  The painted black strip on the prototype is thicker than on the production model.  It will be less obvious on subsequent cars.  I can't get to facebook at work to post the pictures of the prototype at Sebring but will do so when I get home if @chines1 hasn't by then.

Here's a video of a 356C in the probable color combo.  The poster reserves the right to change his mind at any time up to painting.  All rights reserved.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouMMmEOpA5M

Had a long conversation with Carey about options, etc., on Friday.  The body is still curing in the mold.  They will be getting the chassis from Chuck this week or next and things will start happening quickly.

Reminder: Overall style will be much like this, but in a lighter color.

https://silodrome.com/porsche-356-outlaw-car/

Did you notice that the bottom of the dash is not covered in carpet but rather leather all around and around the door pillars.

First time trying this with pictures, so here goes. These are pictures of the Super Coupe at Sebring last month.