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That is a generic german auto club car badge... not affiliated with speedster builders that I am aware of. Badges can be purchased for as little as 10$ on eBay and attached to anything. Example: https://www.ebay.com/itm/29380...BEAQYBSABEgJDXPD_BwE
will need to see pictures of the car to help you out.
That's an ADAC (Allgemeiner Deutscher Automobil Club) badge from Germany. It's kind of like AAA in the US. It has nothing to do with the manufacturer. You can read about the club here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADAC
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Not a "hibachi grill" so it's not a CMC, right?
Correctomundo Ed. Not "hibachi" so not CMC/Fiberfab.
P.S.: I have one of those badges on my Spyder, has nothing to do with who made the car. It just looks cool.
Lot's of CMC have been upgraded with non-hibachi style engine grills.
For the newer members who may not understand "hibachi style," CMCs and FiberFabs originally came with a much heavier style grill that had one horizontal bar, rather than the lighter grills with 3 bars.
@edsnova posted:Not a "hibachi grill" so it's not a CMC, right?
Except early IM's built in Calif used the same hibachi cast grill. Post photos of your car and we can help determine manufacturer --- Dash/door panels/seats/engine compartment.
Here are some photos of the car. It appears to be a well finish car compared to some of the other replicas I’ve seen. The car has no paperwork, owners manual, repair manual or other identification that I can find. The only VIN I found is the VW number on the shifter tunnel in the rear seat area. The title only states 67 VW.
Any assistance would be appreciated. If a detailed photo of a certain area of the car would help, let me know.
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@Troy Sloan posted:Lot's of CMC have been upgraded with non-hibachi style engine grills.
For the newer members who may not understand "hibachi style," CMCs and FiberFabs originally came with a much heavier style grill that had one horizontal bar, rather than the lighter grills with 3 bars.
How many? Some? 10 or 20%?
Much more likely Hibachi grille=CMC than not.
@chines1 What's the "tell" that it's JPS? I'm interested because my VS build has lots of features in common with these photos.
@DannyP posted:Much more likely Hibachi grille=CMC than not.
"Much more likely?" I would say that if it has an Hibachi style grill it's virtually 100% for certain a CMC or a FiberFab! I've never heard of anyone ever replacing a newer style grill with an Hibachi style grill.
Troy, what is your general malfunction? Pick an argument and stick with it, you can't have it both ways.
JPS buys their bodies/kits from someone else and finishes them. This used to be VS and later both VM and Athos. The most common older JPS (up to a few years ago when Kirk sold out) is a Vintage with a nicer paint job and a more finished interior. I can't be certain that it is a JPS, but thats my best guess based on the interior queues that I see, but could be a VS also. The seats and door panels are much more JPS than VS, but could be VS also, but again they are largely the same car with slightly different finishing.
My CMC hibachi grille was very crude. I spent countless hours polishing and smoothing it. At a cars and coffee an IM owner said he liked my grille better than his.
Over the years several early (the 602 built) owners here have said had both the INTERMECANNICA cast hinges and the cast grill. I've not seen one - but early IM were pretty much identical (except built in a controlled manner - not DIY) to CMC/FF. CMC/FF bought out the Speedster from IM in 1979. CMC used the IM molds and rest of the engineering (like steel sub-chassis). I would stand to reason (?) that CMC would not change molds to make the engine lid opening smaller to accommodate casting a new hibachi grill. The bit built 3 bar OEM grill is perhaps 1/4" larger than the hibachi grill - so it is a chore to make it fit a CMC engine lid (complicated by the fact that the rain shield bonding attachment is impacted. Doubt I can find those old posts.
Mike - I too spent hours (dog hours for me) wet sanding and polishing my CMC cast grill. I noticed that vintagespeedsterparts.com has the OEM style grill for $78.
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@DannyP posted:Troy, what is your general malfunction? Pick an argument and stick with it, you can't have it both ways.
I'm not sure why you think there's a malfunction here Danny and I don't see it as an argument like you seem to; I've been consistent. If a car has a Hibachi style grill it's for sure that it's a CMC or Fiberfab. If it doesn't have a Hibachi style grill it could still be a CMC or a Fiberfab that has been modified. Where's the disconnect?
Troy:
Is there some reason that a Hibachi style grill would not / could not be installed on something other than a CMC or Fiberfab?
So no other car than a CMC or Fiberbab could possibly have an Hibachi grill?
Is that what you are saying?
No Bob. There is nothing that would prevent someone from installing any other type of grill.
The point of the original post was to help determine who the manufacturer was and then edsnova posted "Not a "hibachi grill" so it's not a CMC, right?". I simply posted that was not necessarily right, because we've all seen CMCs that have been upgraded to the three bar grills.
I don't get all the confusion and the hostility of Danny's post.
I'm not confused or hostile. It seems to me that you like to pounce in after my posts and let everyone know how much you know.
@DannyP posted:Correctomundo Ed. Not "hibachi" so not CMC/Fiberfab.
Your post right under:
@Troy Sloan posted:Lot's of CMC have been upgraded with non-hibachi style engine grills.