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My outlaw IM proudly wears a Porsche badge on the front and Speedster on the sides. The title says it's a Street Rod Replica and the model is Porsche (it's a Hawaii thing). I'm hoping nobody figures out that it isn't one of those $200k real thing

You're undervaluing the real thing, Michael.  A real Speedster in the shape yours is in is worth 4-$500,00 or more (much, much more) if it has some sort of racing or ownership provenance/history (and of course an original 4 cam car is $1,000,000 +).  Just recently (in the last year?) a rusty, somewhat dilapidated 'driver' sold for $270,000.

I was pulled in to a bit of a pickle at a car show a few years back. We trailered in 3 cars. Usually I follow in my truck with all of the other car show crap (cooler, chairs, etc). However, the day was so perfect - low to mid 70's, not a cloud in the sky. So I took the speedster. My car is pretty obnoxious looking (I did the Carrera Panamericana thing). When I pulled up just to park in the lot, they motioned me on to the grass with the other cars. Who am I to complain? This also put me close to the cars I brought in to actually display. Parked, unloaded, and walked 50 yards away. Went back to the speedster about 4 hours later to grab a rag out of the frunk. I could see marks on fender where some had felt the car up to see if it was glass. Rude at a car show, but no big deal. Then I get called out. That's a replica. Yep. it was built in 2006  by Vintage. Couldn't leave it home on day like this. It was a very easy/pleasant conversation. Then the guy says (in the middle of the Porsche section/owners), "your car is beautiful, you would have to be a really stupid pretentious asshole to buy this car (pointing at the real 356 sitting next to mine) - and yours is probably faster. People can be so stupid... more money than brains". The guy in the 911 behind me fires off "Some of us prefer a true Porsche instead of trying to pass off a fake piece of crap".

I had no where to hide. It was horribly uncomfortable.

I simply said that i never misrepresented the car and it appeared this was an issue that the two of them needed to resolve. Then I walked back over to my other cars.

I did see the 911 owner later in the day when he walked by the other cars I had in the show. I said hi. I did not get a response. I don't think it would have mattered if the speedster would have had Chevy Citation badges on it. Just a bad situation all the way around.

It was awful. No more shows for me. I just drive and enjoy.   

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Two things

1. I went to a classic Porsche dealership show with the Spyder. I told everyone that it was a replica upfront and the guys with the authentic 356s actually loved the Spyder. One guy actually trailered his car because he doesn't drive it at all. The newer Porsche guys are the ones who turn up their noses more often than not. When I go to CnC, the Spyder gets way more attention than the super-cars and the guys wearing slip-on loafers with their car's emblem on them. That's where I get the most hate. By the way, the replica won a trophy at the classic Porsche show.

2. I was at another show (cruise really) where this guy who owned a classic 911 was asking questions. The whole time I was talking to him, he was stroking my car gently with his fingers. It was super-creepy and the funny thing was, I have no issues telling people to stop touching my car or saying pretty much anything. However, I was so distracted by what he was actually doing that the inner-monologue in my head stopped me from saying anything at all. After I noticed what he was doing, I said to myself......... "is he doing what I think he is doing?", "why is he doing that?", "who does that? Especially when they own a classic car and know the rules?", "is that sexual assault of a car?". I wasn't even paying attention to what he was saying and he was gone by the time I was done processing it.

Two things

1. I went to a classic Porsche dealership show with the Spyder. I told everyone that it was a replica upfront and the guys with the authentic 356s actually loved the Spyder. One guy actually trailered his car because he doesn't drive it at all. The newer Porsche guys are the ones who turn up their noses more often than not. When I go to CnC, the Spyder gets way more attention than the super-cars and the guys wearing slip-on loafers with their car's emblem on them. That's where I get the most hate. By the way, the replica won a trophy at the classic Porsche show.

2. I was at another show (cruise really) where this guy who owned a classic 911 was asking questions. The whole time I was talking to him, he was stroking my car gently with his fingers. It was super-creepy and the funny thing was, I have no issues telling people to stop touching my car or saying pretty much anything. However, I was so distracted by what he was actually doing that the inner-monologue in my head stopped me from saying anything at all. After I noticed what he was doing, I said to myself......... "is he doing what I think he is doing?", "why is he doing that?", "who does that? Especially when they own a classic car and know the rules?", "is that sexual assault of a car?". I wasn't even paying attention to what he was saying and he was gone by the time I was done processing it.

Where was his OTHER hand?

"nolite te bastardes carborundorum"

That was about the only thing I remember from my one year of classes in what I believed, back then, was a total waste of time; the quest of Latin Enlightenment.  

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It says:  "Don't Let The Bastards Grind You Down" and it applies to all those, thankfully infrequent, car show gnats who don't "get it".  These cars (real and replica alike) were made for driving, not sitting at shows and THEY don't get that fact.

THEY don't get to touch my car - Only little kids of my choosing get to do that, along with photos of them in the seats, if their parents wish.  THEY are quickly told, "hands off".

THEY can go back to their car and buddies and mind their own business - Most everybody is over near my car, anyway.

THEY get confronted with a terse answer to their "Kit Car?" question and a stare that bores right through their head until they return to their car's area - it never takes long.

THEY usually leave me alone - Besides, I'm usually busy answering questions of the small crowd around my car, that they never have to contend with over at THEIR car.

It is almost ALWAYS a 911 owner looking down their nose at a 356 owner because, as we all know, much of the early 356 cars were made with Volkswagen parts and Porsche only became "legitimate" when they "upgraded" to the 911 model.  It's not just us replica folks and all this started back around 1967.  That is the reason so many 356 clubs started around the USA.  So just don't let it bother you and see the purists for the dick-heads that they show themselves to be.  Many 911-ish owners are really cool and take a great interest in our cars.  They are not the purist dick-heads.

Drive your car.  THAT is the biggest thumbing-your-nose at the purists that can be.

Addendum:  A few years back at the prestigious Lars Anderson Auto Museum "German Car Day" near Boston, Prarit Bhargava brought his beautiful Graphite Gray with Red interior Seduction 550 Spyder to the show.  It was a spectator judged event and he won "Best in Show" but he had already left when the awards were handed out (me, too).  The purists (some were in the TYP356ne club) went Bat$hit when they found out he had won and pointed out to the woman who oversaw the awards that it was a replica.  "A replica of what?", she asked.

"It's a fake Porsche 550", they told her.  "It's not a REAL Porsche!"

Her reply to them (and to Prarit on the phone when she told him about the award) was that, the Marshalls let him in as a German car AND gave him a prominent lawn position because his car was special.  It was not a Porsche judging event, but a spectator-judged event and the spectators chose Prarit's car as Best in Show (by a wide margin, I might add.)  She was very happy that he had won and when could he drop by to pick up his trophy?

If THEY wanted to win, perhaps they just needed a prettier car?

billthecat01

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BTW:  This is the late Norm Brust.  The unfinished body work is over 40 years old and was intentionally left that way "Just to annoy the Purists!"

Norm was NOT a purist, even though he bought this car in 1962 and still owned (and drove) it when he died at 92 last year from Covid.  He was a good friend of mine and he "got" the whole replica thing:  "It's just like my car, drives the same and is less dear to fix for a lot less money.  What's not to like?"  

Norm was a driver and drove his car.  Everywhere.  Anytime.  At well above the posted speed limits.   RIP, my friend.

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I did see the 911 owner later in the day when he walked by the other cars I had in the show. I said hi. I did not get a response. I don't think it would have mattered if the speedster would have had Chevy Citation badges on it. Just a bad situation all the way around.

It was awful. No more shows for me. I just drive and enjoy.   '



I have been there.  Those guys are around everywhere you go, some show you their two decimal place IQ and their lack of upbringing.  Since when does owning a high end car, something you bought,  makes you part of some elite club, or that they are better than the other because they have more money toys etc.  It's the same with degrees, jobs, professions, trades etc.  Not too many people that own cars are kings in real life, maybe only in their own minds.  

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I place the placard on my car mostly to take the wind out of the blowhards. The ones who like to boast loudly enough for anyone within 20 feet to hear how they can tell it's a fake.IMG_1430

When returning to my car at one event, someone asked "Why have a replica?"

My reply "Well, they're kinda like breast implants. EVERYONE knows they're fake, yet they're still nice to look at...and way more fun than the originals".

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I place the placard on my car mostly to take the wind out of the blowhards. The ones who like to boast loudly enough for anyone within 20 feet to hear how they can tell it's a fake.IMG_1430

When returning to my car at one event, someone asked "Why have a replica?"

My reply "Well, they're kinda like breast implants. EVERYONE knows they're fake, yet they're still nice to look at...and way more fun than the originals".

GOOD ONE!!!.....I need to start writing these all down and write a book and...maybe cut a book deal..ha,ha

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Gordon, what's the Latin for, "Life is too short" ?

This is part of that sticky stuff on one's shoe that you have to deal with when you drive a replica. Most people love these cars, and will tell you so without being asked, and regardless of what they drive.

Eventually, though, you will run into Zuffenhausen's anointed people. They have been sent here to do God's work and are tireless in their devotion. They wear the trademark of their religion woven into their garments. The zeal of the true believer is in their eyes. They do not tolerate the infidel in their midst.

For me, life is indeed too short to get bogged down in matters of theology when I just want to be enjoying a sunny day. The few car shows I go to, I attend as a spectator. I park in the parking lot with the rest of the riff raff. If the parking lot is the show - like at a C&C - I have a little card for my windshield (like the one in Jim's photo) that says in big type 'replica' right up top, with some mechanical details below. And if any of the anointed people come calling, I've got the little 'Plastic Car Club' sticker to mess with them.

On the whole, though, I'd rather be driving than parking. I do a C&C every so often more to see than to be seen. I usually get away from the Speedster as quick as possible and let the little card do the talking.

It's in a language laymen can understand.

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