@WNGD posted:If Google is correct, 3.74 a US gallon is .99/litre....we're currently paying ~$1.40 so ~$4.70/US gallon?
Your Canadian dollar is $.78 of a USD, so $4.70/gal CD is $3.66 USD, which is almost exactly the blue state price of gas in the Land of Lincoln.
@edsnova posted:The Europeans pay taxes and get services in return. In the case of fuel taxes, one benefit is viable mass transit. Crazy system they got over there, I know!
Ah. If we could only be more like Europe.
You know... the Utopia everybody left to come here (before we decided we wanted to be just like them?).
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The Europeans have had centuries to perfect their machinery of graft and corruption and are much better at it than we are.
There is a delicacy of balance in knowing how much to line one's pockets while granting just enough public services to keep the lumpenproletariat appeased.
You can get away with quite a lot if you also manage to make the trains run on time.
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Sadly for us, @DannyP, ‘normal unleaded’ in the UK is now £1.47 per litre, which works out at £5.56 per US gallon. Current exchange rates means this translates to $7.36 a US gallon. However, it gets worse, because our basic unleaded is now 10% ethanol so to run an older engine you really need ‘premium’ unleaded which is only 5% ethanol. That’s currently £1.52/L = $7.61 US gallon.
Here they want to be like Europe and replace cars with bikes in city centres so they keep shrinking car lanes and increase the petrol cost so you won’t drive as much and use people as human shields to slow traffic down… no guff… they even have the nerve to call the lane signs traffic calming rather than what they are traffic frustrating as every year I see a bunch knocked off. Imagine the poor fire truck driver can’t negotiate and sometimes has to force the oncoming driver into the signs damaging his car as he barrels along using both lanes … saw this with my own eyes and the city continues to grow the program.
Here in my area of SoCal, premium grade is currently going for $5.18/gal.
I consider it a relatively inexpensive cost for the therapy provided by my 4-wheel decompression chamber (Speedster). What...me worry? 
@edsnova posted:The Europeans pay taxes and get services in return. In the case of fuel taxes, one benefit is viable mass transit. Crazy system they got over there, I know!
Exactly!
One other thing. The cars Europeans drive (generally) get great fuel mileage. I rented an Opel station wagon in Paris (2017) and drove over 2,000 miles at 75 miles per gallon. The price of fuel was about 1.45 Euro per liter ($7.80/gallon).
I guess they would import those cars here if anyone wanted them.
When your country is 500 miles border to border you don't have far to go. The once good 'ol US of A that distance is 3,000 miles East to West.
We rely on cars and trucks for our basic needs. Not much rail service over the entire country. Europe is spider webbed with rail.
Prior to 1974 the major oil companies capped our wells and bought oil from the Arabs. Fast forward to 2020; US was the largest oil producing country in the world. Gotta ask yourself how gasoline went from $1.50 (here in the Old South) to $3.25 in less than a year?
What I can't figure out is why the people support things that are obviously contrary to their own best interest.
Got to buy gas today. Yesterday it was $2.99.
My Z4 averages 25mpg. Right now the cost to drive 2,000 miles is about equal to the European trip of 2017.
We're a strange bunch us humans; *everything* has gone up over the years due to inflation and other supply/production costs but we want gas to be the same price (more or less) always as if by magic. I recall being quite small and mom complaining that the local Getty (I think) was more expensive that others and it was maybe $0.20 a gal.
US directly supports fossil industries to the tune of ~500billion a year, imagine what the cost would be otherwise.
Further aging myself, when I was approaching driving age, I was trying to convince my dad to buy me* a car and I think the price average in the PA area we lived was ~3k new. You can buy an admittedly better car now, but new less than 20k is tough ask. Gas prices, in that perspective, remain quite 'inexpensive'.
Me personally, I CAN'T WAIT to find out what it costs to fill my new toy!
*Dad was unmoved; no car was purchased for my use regardless of my excellent arguments of persuasion.
Have you ever calculated the cost per gallon of a draft beer, or fountain Diet Coke? Or even a bottle of water? Makes gas seem pretty cheap. Yes we humans are an odd bunch.
On one of our many trips to Walt Disney World’s EPCOT I noticed that the price for a pint of beer at the Canada Pavilion was $1.75 (this must have been back in the 1990’s).
Walk back out to the promenade around the country’s lagoon and a bottle of water, slightly smaller than a pint, was $2.00
hmmmmmmm………
@MusbJim you are correct sir!....luckily some of us are able to still afford our 4 wheel therapy...what is sad is the pain being inflicted on those not as fortunate (though inflation of food , gas prices etc... among other things) is absolutely PREVENTABLE if the powers that be in charge at the moment would reverse course with failed policies and work for "we the people" instead of themselves in their search for ultimate power....just IMHO
Dam, I just filled up my SUV. Can you imagine the high cost of gas today? Geez $2.89 a freaking gallon...Go Br...don* 
* , what your state calls 'premium' and what CA calls 'premium' are probably not the same thing. Insult to injury.
I don't even look at the prices when I fill up. It's not that I'm fabulously wealthy....but rather why stress about something I really cannot control. I can walk or ride my bike, I guess, but where's the fun in that?
If I recall correctly, last time I looked at the cost of gas here in the Bay Area, it was:
87: Plasma,
89: Blood,
91: Kidney
Or something like that.
@msjulie posted:Me personally, I CAN'T WAIT to find out what it costs to fill my new toy!
If you suffer under the delusion that the cost of a gallon of gas has no further bearing just remember that EVERYTHING we have moves on an internal combustion engine.
Be careful of what you wish for!
If you suffer under the delusion that the cost of a gallon of gas has no further bearing just remember that EVERYTHING we have moves on an internal combustion engine.
Be careful of what you wish for!
Sorry I don't understand what you're saying - I suffer no delusions around the fact that our world (for the most part) society and economies are dependent on fossil fuels if that's what you're suggesting.
I maintain that I look forward to my speedster being finished so among other things, I'll be putting fossil fuels into it but mostly hopefully enjoying some retro motoring.
@msjulie posted:Sorry I don't understand what you're saying - I suffer no delusions around the fact that our world (for the most part) society and economies are dependent on fossil fuels if that's what you're suggesting.
I maintain that I look forward to my speedster being finished so among other things, I'll be putting fossil fuels into it but mostly hopefully enjoying some retro motoring.
Knowing everything that you're having done to your speedie, @msjulie, I have NO DOUBTS about your future "retro motoring" enjoyment! 
As always, Stan is right on the money. Anyone paying attention knows that Jerome Powell is full of sh-t. Real inflation is closer to 20-25%. Look at the prices in the grocery store. Beef up 50%, chicken 30%. Home heating oil last season, about $1.60 a gallon, this year $2.90 and climbing. At 1200 gallons a season, that’s real money for a lot of people.
@LI-Rick posted:As always, Stan is right on the money. Anyone paying attention knows that Jerome Powell is full of sh-t. Real inflation is closer to 20-25%. Look at the prices in the grocery store. Beef up 50%, chicken 30%. Home heating oil last season, about $1.60 a gallon, this year $2.90 and climbing. At 1200 gallons a season, that’s real money for a lot of people.
Rick's not going out of his mind, I had (another) "hyper-inflation is here" post I put up after an extremely long day of dealing with... well... runaway inflation. It was too much for a car website so I took it down after Rick responded.
So, in the spirit of this post on this site:
"Yep, fuel sure has gone up, but not as much as some other things".
