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I saw this on YouTube tonight. It was posted yesterday.

I don't speak enough Spanish to follow, but these guys look like they've got it going on.

@LI-Rick @aircooled Call Greg and get him to look at this, or at least get his chassis guy to look at this.

The front suspension looks easy enough to weld in. The rear looks like it goes over the trans, shocks are on rockers. Looks like plenty of room for exhaust down under.

Santiago Racing Brasil is the company, and they do have a Facebook page showing LOTS of suspensions ready to go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4ODiCvjeqI

I'm verklempt. Discuss...

2016 Vintage Spyder 2165 type1 EFI/Dry Sumped

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@DannyP posted:

Ok, so I suck at languages. Sorry. I remember now that Portuguese is the language of Brazil. Carey can speak it I think.

I do as well, but I worked in Brazil for 3 months when I was 20. I learned how to get by with "please" and "thank you", and what hand gestures got you the things you needed. I can understand the cadence and what various languages do differently with pronunciations (for instance, American English has a lot of hard consonants, especially people from the Midwest), but my vocabulary in anything besides my native tongue is nearly nonexistent.

Whenever we travel anywhere, my standby is, "I'm so sorry I never learned to speak the language of your beautiful country. Can you please help me?"

I generally get exactly what I need.

Ok, well somebody needs to translate what that guy is saying.

I think Greg should purchase a front end and a back end for both Speedsters and Spyders, make tube frames for both cars(copying the suspension design) and unceremoniously DUMP the VW underpinnings and pan.

I'd love a type1 injected Spyder with A-arms all around, and a 901 5 speed.

@Chris Kleber, KitMan Motors

We know you make a chassis, and a body.

A very few people want a chassis that has NO VW beam, is NOT a swing axle rear, and has some sort of space frame for rigidity and driver protection.

We WANT unequal length A-arms and coilovers, rack and pinion steering, and adjustable anti-sway bars. We also want any brakes we choose along with any wheel bolt pattern.

Some guys want aircooled power, some want Subaru. Options for either motor and trans would be nice. Suby, VW, Porsche 901 trans.

Are you willing to build that?

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@R Vosari posted:

Actually what the "market" wants is a slavish copy of an original 550, replete with phony fuel pumps, rocker covers, drum brake skins, and cooling fan "covers"and lots of decals...to name a few...but this takes big "ming" who other than a few are willing to do this ?

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I'm not so sure about that, @R Vosari.  @edsnova has come pretty darned close and has not yet found a buyer.

@R Vosari posted:

Actually what the "market" wants is a slavish copy of an original 550, replete with phony fuel pumps, rocker covers, drum brake skins, and cooling fan "covers"and lots of decals...to name a few...but this takes big "ming" who other than a few are willing to do this ?

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I think what the market wants is a hotrod that looks like an old Porsche, whether Speedster or Spyder.  What a hotrod is to each individual, leaves a lot of room open on the playground.

No…not to beat-up on Ed, but I would never had published a publicly available build log. It was replete with every mistake, faux pas, or poor quality weld he made.

The buyers want perfection, built by the acknowledged masters (whomever that may be), otherwise they view everything as amateurish, even though they (themselves) don’t know one end of a wrench from another !

When you build something yourself, unless you are the master, you are making minimum wage, sad to say, and you have to price accordingly...

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@DannyP posted:

@Chris Kleber, KitMan Motors

We know you make a chassis, and a body.

A very few people want a chassis that has NO VW beam, is NOT a swing axle rear, and has some sort of space frame for rigidity and driver protection.

We WANT unequal length A-arms and coilovers, rack and pinion steering, and adjustable anti-sway bars. We also want any brakes we choose along with any wheel bolt pattern.

Some guys want aircooled power, some want Subaru. Options for either motor and trans would be nice. Suby, VW, Porsche 901 trans.

Are you willing to build that?

@Chris Kleber, KitMan Motors,

Chris, you pop in here once in a while, drop what appears to be a little promotion of your company, but no follow up when people ask questions.   That doesn't seem like a good way to attract new customers.

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