Ray, I was in a movie!  I could not turn around.  Anyway, I've fixed everything myself, the 356 is now beyond my dream, better than any 356 I've ever driven, and SPRING is coming.  Do you know Geary Miller, the pre-A genius?

Eric Marshall Green posted:

Ray, I was in a movie!  I could not turn around.  Anyway, I've fixed everything myself, the 356 is now beyond my dream, better than any 356 I've ever driven, and SPRING is coming.  Do you know Geary Miller, the pre-A genius?

No I don't know him.  Maybe on take 12 of the film you would have gotten the journey correct.  Just saying

Eric wrote:

"advice?  If you want to actually drive your expensive IM 356—don’t!  Hopefully your paint will match so you can at least stare at."

@Stan Galat remind me not to drive my 356 IM all over the country like I have been doing the last 8 years.  I'll just leave it storage.  I'm not defending Henry even though my experience was not the same as Eric.

That said, saying Henry is man without integrity is like saying that Stan does not go to church or like Gordon doesn't say in 6 paragraphs what most people say in two, or that Danny Pip does not like beer, or that Vince Manto does not like women, or that Marty's glove don't match his interior 😂

 

 

 

 

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Eric Marshall Green posted:

Ray, I was in a movie!  I could not turn around.  Anyway, I've fixed everything myself, the 356 is now beyond my dream, better than any 356 I've ever driven, and SPRING is coming.  Do you know Geary Miller, the pre-A genius?

Well glad to hear that on "take 12" of fixing the car you got it sorted it out, it is now a perfect example of a well sorted out IM.  Now just enjoy the ride

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Bob, I wish I knew.  I put up a trailer.  Did you see it?

 

I was not able to get it to run properly, but will try again.

So, back to your father creating the first 356 GT car with Ferry Porsche in 1951.  Did your father work in Germany at the time, as a partner to Ferry?

I think it’s wonderful that you have all those historic pictures. It appears your dad was quite a guy. Thanks for posting.

So your dad ordered a car directly from Porsche in 1951, with some modifications and different equipment etc. that suited him.

Then Porsche takes your dad's ideas for the car and creates the first 356 GT.

Is that what happened? 

What was the interface like between your dad and Ferry Porsche and his engineers? Has anyone other than you, like from Porsche, ever documented or acknowledged this?

 

The name's Bob.

I wasn't picking a fight, just interested in the story. I thought you might want to expand on it with some additional info. Your dad sounds like quite a guy.

Maybe you should consider another "sandbox" yourself. 

I'm not leaving.

Companies might make a one off for someone if it fits their goals or direction for their products then when they flesh it out they incorporate it into their line up... sometimes they include who got the idea sometimes not and if your the one with the idea you would have to patent it but once it is in the wild it is gone unfortunately.

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PANHANDLE BOB:  You've been around more than a decade.  In some cases tenure is not an indicator of competence.  Neither is pedigree real or imagined. I'm not a fan of pedigree as it can't be measured as competence can.  I've read your posts, you seem to know how to do stuff. 

Considering how long you've been around and what you've shared, it's kinda rude to tell you to leave.  You're a big boy and stuff rolls off your back, but I'm sure I'm one of many who are glad you're sticking around.

I'm sure I may be asked to leave the sandbox.  It's another benchmark for me, I've been censored, enlarged my vocabulary, best of all my ride is better because of all of you.  

 

What's up with this obsession with sand?

I'll say that I know Henry Reisner well enough to call him friend. I've never bought a thing from him. I also know a whole boatload of happy IM owners/customers.

And then there's this one unhappy story. I'm thinking there's more to this story, but one dissenting vote is not going to color my opinion of the man or the company. And that sounds like the intent here, at least to me. 

And before you tell me to go play in another sandbox, I'll save you the trouble Eric. I'm not going anywhere either.

Marty, although I do love beer, I seem to love it a little less these days. Or maybe it loves me less.

DANNYP:  Like a lot of folks, aging has taken a toll on my consumption of bacon, cheeseburgers, beer, and cigars (sigh).  Fortunately, I can still log seat time in, and wrench of my clown car.   

I don’t think Eric came on here to create a shyte storm or it would have been the story he led with, but he didn’t.  

Everyone has their own experiences when they take delivery of their car. Not every car coming out of Vintage Speedsters, Vintage Motorcars, SAS, JPS, Chesil, of even IM can be perfect. Once in a while someone is going to have one or more teething pains. It happens. 

Just because someone shares their misfortunes about a builder, any builder, shouldn’t cause us to get out our picks and shovels to beat them back. It’s their experience and it’s okay to share it .

Shyte happens. Eric had a dream and a plan and it was hampered by some problems. That may have made the problems seem more substantial or they may have in fact been substantial. Only Eric knows, or anyone who has problems with their cars knows, what problems he/they had/have. And only they know in what manner it was resolved. 

I’m enjoying his story. It’s deeply personal and to me it’s very unique and interesting. The adventures he had with his dad may have been unconventional but they were definitely special and it is what made Eric, Eric.

Can’t help but to agree with @Robert M on this one. 
“Just because someone shares their misfortunes about a builder, any builder, shouldn’t cause us to get out our picks and shovels to beat them back. It’s their experience and it’s okay to share it .”

We’ve heard a number of members complain about Kirk, Greg, John Steele and SAS in the past (OK maybe the SAS one is well-deserved).  These are all hand-built cars, and have been known from time to time to have a bad one slip threw. Nothing uncommon. Big time auto manufacturers that spend billions in R&D and thousands of testing hours have faulty cars that slip through.  

Then you add in the high-maintenance owners (ie. “Us”) that keep changing things as they are being fabricated. How Henry, the Hines’, Greg, etc maintain their sanity is beyond me. 

That said, Eric’s build was incredibly emotional: a tribute to his father; for which he has the utmost level of respect.  Add in that emotion with these types of builds and Eric’s behavior is understandable.  I would certainly have a similar reaction if I put myself in Eric’s shoes. 

I’ve driven an older IM build. It completely changed my attitude towards IM cars, for the positive. I think they are amazing cars, and can fully understand why the members here that own them may take offense to Eric’s claims. But at the same token, it doesn’t mean Eric is wrong. 

I realize this sounds like I’m talking out of both sides of my mouth here, but why add fuel to Eric’s fire?  He’s pissed. And let him be. And those with amazing IM cars, enjoy them and the relationship you have with Henry. You’re not going to convince Eric he’s wrong. And he’s obviously not going to convince you that you’re wrong about Henry and his cars. 

And thank you guys for the couple understanding comments (rare on these forums and the only reason I continue here).  And please realize I'm a very generous guy with money and praise if something is done correctly.  But I dislike being lied to.  When I'm told I'm getting 911 disk brakes, and I pay for such, I'm not delighted to find the front are Rabbit and the rears, Ford.  The list goes on and on.

As to my version of the story . . . this entire thing is on FILM.  Every last bit of it.  And not once did a badmouth Henry.  Frankly, I did not want him in the movie at that point.  Bizarrely, I liked Henry very much.  Great sense of humor.  He called me before every flight to China, or wherever he was headed, and whined in a humorous way for at least half an hour.  When you think someone is your friend, and THEN they screw you, maybe that hurts all the more?  Anyway, no one but Henry builds the kind of 356 I wanted.  I didn't want a skateboard with a 356 body.  My 356 now looks and drives like a real one, but BETTER.  Way better.  If Henry had only been STRAIGHT with me, we would still be friends and I'd be raving in praise.  And I did not give a shite at the cost.  Imagine being poor all your life, just as your father was poor.  Imagine being rejected by the art world for 45 years.  Then suddenly you have a show and before it even opens, it earns 1/4 million dollars.  And that is just the beginning.  I've never cared about money, and now being a Screen Shot 2017-10-25 at 8.00.24 AMmillionaire I care WAY less.  I told Henry that. 

PLEASE be HONEST.  Look at this two-tone paint.  Would you accept this in a 100k build?  Realize the bumpers and the windshield supports are also a different tone.  The photo  was taken by Henry in Canada.

 

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This company (intermeccanica) has been around for more than 60 years. The other Replica companies making Speedsters do not have a history.

 

HIGHLANDER356:  Can you enlighten us as to the source of your authority to pronounce participation in threads is limited by manufacturer.  Please cite where we can find it.

I think Henry's a good man, but I also believe Eric's story. No business makes every customer happy and, even when the customer is a total asshole (not saying Eric was, just that we've all seen that happen too) it's rare that the vender is completely blameless. 

You miss a couple stitches and, sometimes, the whole garment falls in tatters.

I wish Eric had found this board before he set out on his journey. Or even before he contracted his build. I think some of the men here could have helped him a lot.

This forum may serve as a format to warm of absolute thievery but every other build issue has two sides and the forum is not really the place to castigate builders.  Just saying.

Why are you doing this to yourself? My Speedster is from California and it might be an IM or it might not be. Either way here it is on the IM Registry thread. Not much to do but look at it and try to decide if it is or isn’t. 
 
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Highlander356 posted:

This thread is for intermeccanica Porsche Replica vehicles only.

This company (intermeccanica) has been around for more than 60 years. The other Replica companies making Speedsters do not have a history.

 

That is an IM.

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Highlander356 posted:

This thread is for intermeccanica Porsche Replica vehicles only.

This company (intermeccanica) has been around for more than 60 years. The other Replica companies making Speedsters do not have a history.

 

Ewatub posted:

HIGHLANDER356:  Can you enlighten us as to the source of your authority to pronounce participation in threads is limited by manufacturer.  Please cite where we can find it.

You know, Highlander (I still haven't caught your first name),I agree that IM has built some very nice cars, but so have a lot of the other manufacturers, and in some cases individual owners have turned those 'inferior examples' into some pretty fine machines. Again (I said this before in response to another of your posts), I think you're trying to create something here that no one else in the replica Speedster world is looking for. And to say "the other replica companies making Speedsters do not have a history"- remember, I also own an IM, and I think that's just a little insulting. There's some pretty nice cars being turned out by a couple of the other Speedster builders these days. Al

I think I'll start a thread just for left handed, one eyed, journeyman plumbers of Armenian descent who own purple widebody CMC's.

And nobody else better post on it............or I'll...............do something!

(This idea countervails SOC Site Operating Rule #7 sec. A.3: "Thread drift will commence within 10  postings on every thread, regardless of the original topic or intent of the originator of the thread. No thread is sacred or can escape drift.")

Take heed Highlander!

 

 

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Well.

It's clear that you gentlemen just don't get it. I for one would like to go on record to point out (as a lauded Intermeccanica owner, and member of the landed gentry) that my pooie don't stinky. As a matter of fact, it smells like lilacs.

I'm going to hurry to enroll my car in the Intermeccanica Porsche 356 Speedster Registry, to go along with my enrollment as a founding member in the PCCA (Plastic Clown-Car Club of America), and recently in the Toro Lawn-Mower Owner's Association. Nothing will ever mean as much to me as being a charter member of the Fraternal Order of Poopie-Heads (thanks, Joufou!), but that's something else altogether.

My IM is tube-framed, which obviously makes it better than number 55 in the "Registry". My Toro is also self-propelled. Take that, small people.

I'm a regular pedigreed dog, that's what I am (what with my car's storied history and all). My valuable and historical forgery is vastly superior to all other forgeries, and imparts on me an earned pompousness over other, more plebeian fake owners. It's clear from all of your posts why we need our own registry: to weed out the riffraff.

We IM owners are cooler than thou. Way cooler. Way, way cooler.

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