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IaM-Ray posted:

The construction is very different compared to your IM I would think.  

I personally do not like the AC unit nor the switches for the windows.

It just seems that some finishing touches are missing in the coupe builds that I have seen.  

Maybe I am a bit more fastidious  but I am a detail guy

And IM is very meticulous about details...I am spoiled also..I see your point

I gotta tell ya, whatever A/C John uses in those coupes (I believe it is from Vintage Air) it REALLY puts out!  Tom Marantz has the JPS Suby/coupe that we were ripping around in at Carlisle 2017 in 90+ degree sweltering heat, and I couldn't wait to get back in the car and crank the A/C.  After just a few cooling minutes we were reaching for the control to turn the darn thing DOWN!

And as chilling as the A/C is, Tom tells me the heater is just as good!

It seems interesting, though, that John is about the only coupe maker out there, right now, and produces maybe 2 - 3 per year (I'm honestly guessing, here) and we see a used one pop up for sale, what?, every 6 months or so?  WTF?!?!?!?

Honestly, I love everything about that car except the stupid AC unit.  I think its interesting that the radiator is mounted horizontal.  I know that Henry at IM will not build a suby car without a front bumper since the front bumper hides a cutout in the front of the car feeding air to the radiator.  So will a horizontal radiator provide adequate cooling?  Obviously JPS thinks so.  The horizontal radiator seems mandatory in a watercooled outlaw.  

Well, I like the looks but I am so glad IM was not building a coupe when I bought my first IM convertible D... roadster I would have never experienced top down driving ... love it.. as for a hardtop, where we live it goes from driveable to snow so quickly I would maybe use it for a month so I passed on the hardtop as it would sit in the garage and get lonely.

550 Phil posted:  I think its interesting that the radiator is mounted horizontal.    So will a horizontal radiator provide adequate cooling?    The horizontal radiator seems mandatory in a watercooled outlaw.  
 

Phil, I'm confused by your last sentence vs. the other two quoted above. Why do you say say ....mandatory in a watercooled outlaw ? 

I put a horizontal rad in my conversion. I'm far from an expert in this area but it works just fine. Rather than rip into my trunk and reduce the already small baggage space there, I found that a "near horizontal" rad could be slung quite easily under the bumper brackets in my older pan based IM. I used a Saab 9000 rad which is raised up in the front by about 3" and allowed space underneath for an intake scoop. The scoop still provides about 5" road clearance and it too is slightly raised up in front. I know that more than a few bits of road kill has been smoothed over with it. I've since reduced the intake area of the scoop to about 18 sq in. and it works well even in South Florida heat. The fan will come on in stop and go situations but I try hard to avoid that anyway. 

As an aside...the radiator is there to "radiate" heat and I'm thinking that a horizontal rad may be more efficient in radiating in a worst case scenario ( stuck in traffic ) because the whole area of it is well oriented to radiate freely ( hot air rises ) , while a vertical rad might have heat radiating into more heat on the way out and up when stuck in traffic for instance. I know this logic goes against most every auto manufacturer but they know a lot more than me and modern cars are more complex and the systems are more compact than I could ever make fit and run. 

Again, I'm sure not expert but I got the idea from some Formula One technical pics and looking for a simple way out, the horizontal method looked good to me and ....it works. 

David I think Phil was saying that because IM seems to only build them by putting a slot in the lower body area and covering it up with the bumper so it is unseen. 

Your set up works which is great,  if your temp goes up at idle if you have a temp gauge available you can always make sure you idle it at a faster rpm to keep it cool or put in an inline auxiliary pump like a lot of us have. 

Now that IM makes Car-Dashian models I would love to see their version of a coupe and it might be an option some day but I think IM is headed into the atmosphere with lighting powered cars.  

I hear a second speedster with lightning power I mean Lithium powered car with a new 180hp motor is in the works.  So for now IM is headed into the ether and I don't forsee a coupe in their near future.  

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