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Had a great time visiting with John at JPS this morning. He truly has a passion. He gave me 1-1/2 hours of his time and experience. Some photos attached. I’m visiting Vintage Motorcars next week.

Thanks to everyone on this forum who reached out to me with to offer their brilliant advice. Met several very nice guys, some who offered me a test drive in their car. It’s great to be a perspective owner in such a great community.

Mike

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@MikeM posted:

Had a great time visiting with John at JPS this morning. He truly has a passion. He gave me 1-1/2 hours of his time and experience. Some photos attached. I’m visiting Vintage Motorcars next week.

As Troy notes, get several opinions on how the vendor has treated customers in the past. The folks on this board know the players well. Thanks for the pictures from JPS. I'd been curious.

Mike

Yes I do have good intentions. Just reporting my visit. I’ve read the posts regarding vendors and take them seriously, and I am not endorsing anyone. I expected some input like this based on what I’ve read here. Again, I just stated what I saw, and it was simply a visit. Not an experience of buying or owning, which is different.

Thanks Richard.

wait time is an issue for me  I mean, I’m no spring chicken lol  

I’m 6’2+ and I must say that getting in was a bit embarrassing. Nothing like seeing an old guy getting into a cool car  I think with practice and technique I may get past the laughingstock stage  

BTW I was surprised the water cooled option was only $4k more. 2.5 Subura with upgraded tranny, iRS, and AC.

@MikeM I'm afraid to jinx it - earlier in the year Greg suggested he might start getting out from under his backlog sometime in May;  I hope it will be a Christmas present as there are many folks in front of me in line.   Being in Ca getting a car already here or to-be-registered here solves a lot of challenges else Cloud 9 sure seems to have some nice ones.

It took me longer than it should have to pull the trigger, lurking on this site for over a year watching and reading up on the options.  Biggest delay for me is I'm going with the subie engine which is a bunch more work but for what I'm looking for should be just the ticket.

One nice thing about going to the shop in person was being able to get a whole bunch of color samples for body, interior, carpet to take home. That selection process was agonizing fun but expect to be really happy with the end result . Pics when I got the car of course.

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@MikeM posted:

Yes I do have good intentions. Just reporting my visit. I’ve read the posts regarding vendors and take them seriously, and I am not endorsing anyone. I expected some input like this based on what I’ve read here. Again, I just stated what I saw, and it was simply a visit. Not an experience of buying or owning, which is different.

My concern was that another newbie might happen to read your glowing post and be influenced by it without knowing there has been a lot of VERY negative experiences discussed on the SOC.

I don't really understand why anyone would visit a builder with so much bad press, unless they just didn't believe it or were unaware of it.

@R Thorpe posted:

Mike,

Your doing fine, John at JPS is not well considered here, but simplify your choice. I visited JPS and Vintage. It came down to this JPS wanted 18 months, Vintage wanted 4, easy choice. This was last June and Greg delivered to me almost on time and I’m very pleased with the outcome. Good luck.



Richard

@MikeM- If you're still undecided- read the above again (and again and again if you have to)

@Troy Sloan posted:

*CAUTION* The experience described in the message above this one is exactly what many others have reported PRIOR to putting down a deposit.  Do your due diligence and search the SOC before you make a decision to purchase a new Speedster.

To anyone- Yes, John at JPS is enthusiastic and passionate when talking about a new build, but he is also known for being very hard to deal with once he has your money. @DannyP's comment (in another recent thread) of not knowing who you're getting- Dr. Jeckyl or Mr. Hyde- on any particular day is (from reports of more than a few dissatisfied customers here) seems pretty accurate.  As well, people have complained about the man doing things the way he thinks they should be instead of what the customer wants.

I'm the first to admit that I've never even met the man and am only reporting what I've read here, but a couple of experiences are from people I've met (and I trust their word and judgement) so please keep that in mind.  Al

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@ALB @Troy Sloan i believe my opinion on this issue has been documented a time or two....i was just sitting back to observe the latest reviews....i, for one do not play the FACEBOOK game...but someone with the know-how should forward these threads to good'ole john-boy.....just for kicks...but alas, as we that know also know...he DOES NOT CARE...with his semi long history, he has just become NUMB to our reviews of his....how does one say?.... "questionable" business practices & personality disorders?....troy seems to 2nd my opinion.....let the buyer beware

@R Thorpe posted:

Mike,

Your doing fine, John at JPS is not well considered here, but simplify your choice. I visited JPS and Vintage. It came down to this JPS wanted 18 months, Vintage wanted 4, easy choice. This was last June and Greg delivered to me almost on time and I’m very pleased with the outcome. Good luck.



Richard

I think John thinks of it as a loan to keep his cash flow going,sort of like SAS

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