Danny:
"I'm usually the guy who says what everyone else is thinking".
There's confidence for you.
Danny:
"I'm usually the guy who says what everyone else is thinking".
There's confidence for you.
Panhandle Bob posted:Danny:
"I'm usually the guy who says what everyone else is thinking".
There's confidence for you.
I thought that was a symptom of ETOH usage Just kidding.
When I first started working on School bus brakes, oh, maybe 1960 or so, it was a two-person job and the rear bleeders were waaaaay back there so there was a certain amount of yelling back and forth to the "driver" for "UP!"......."Down!" on the pedal to sync with closing/opening of the bleeder. That's how I bled the brakes on Pearl the first few times and had a wife and kids to depend on for the legwork. The process worked well and seemed fool-proof enough for us but it was time-consuming and tedious. For a single person job on a school bus it would have required one helluva long broomstick with multiple bends to get from here to there.
Then my Dad was talked into a metal tank, pressure bleeder from "Snap-On Eddie", our local Snap-On guy, that included reservoir adapter covers for just about anything. The GM/Ford/IH adapters were simple metal plates with rubber on one side that fit in place of the baled cover on the fluid reservoir, had some way of securing it to the reservoir (usually just the bale wire but sometimes screw-down attachments) and a quick disconnect for the fluid tube. That was a work-life changing moment. Now, we could bleed the entire system in less than 1/4 the time, with a single person and no brake pedal pumping. Eureka! The only issue was with the GM reservoir which had a gasket for the cover that was formed with pockets in it so sometimes when you put the cover back on after bleeding it would force a bunch of fluid out. THAT was cured with a Turkey Baster to suck some of the fluid out of the reservoir before installing the cover. No big deal.
Even with that system we sometimes got leaks with the adapter plates or, if it was a screw-on cap like on my brother's BMW or Mini with the rubber washer inside of the cap, but any of those were easily replaced so that system lasted for over 30 years. I had already made my home-built bug sprayer bleeder by the time I cleaned out my Dad's old shop getting it ready to sell, but I found that old Snap-On bleeder, with much of the paint peeling off from brake fluid spilled on it over the years, and a box of adapters, some used a lot and some never used at all, sitting high on a shelf in a shop closet. Couldn't find anyone interested in it (it did look a little rough, for sure) so it ended up at the scrap metal salvage yard, along with 6 other loads of thrown out stuff from the shop. Made me feel like the story of the brave little toaster.
I bleed my brakes using my phone.
It's bloody simple that way. One phone call and the appointment is made...
Seriously, I used to do it myself with the help of someone else or a broom stick, but no more. No leaks, no hassle, and I can drink coffee and read a magazine at the same time.
Update, Schwaben kit review.
After using the motive I found this kit and you do not have to remove the pump to fill it which may or may not be an advantage but it does look pretty solid and it seems a bit more reasonable in cost. Just saying.
Where to get the kit.
$36 bucks is a really great price for that bleeder.
Schwaben makes nice stuff, I had a couple of their tools for my Audi.
That looks pretty cool, less science-experiment(Gordon, here's looking at you LOL!) and much cheaper than Motive.
I was able to buy motive from Amazon because it was cheaper to ship to my home but this one is a really good deal
Unfortunate to us northern guys it cost as much to ship us to buy
My wife Connie has bled so many speedster projects brakes with me she had to have a knee replacement years ago :~)
@DannyP posted:This whole Motive system seems like a solution in search of a problem. So you spent all this money and it leaks? And then you have to buy extra adapters to do the job?
Don't you guys have a spouse, friend, or relative? The rest of the world does and has the darn thing finished bleeding already while you guys futz with leaks.
I bleed my clutch by myself. I use a broom handle on the clutch and work the wrench on the bleeder with the other. For brakes I have a wife, two kids, and a handful of good friends close by.
I'm with Danny. Nothing beats "the buddy system." I've used about 4 different bleeders, from the simple tube with a one-way valve, to a MityVac, to the Motive bleeder, to a vacuum pump on the other end. Every single one required a buddy pumping the pedal to finish them off.
When I redid my M/Cs, I used the Motive Bleeder on the reservoir and my Wurth vacuum on the other end. Luckily, the Tilton reservoirs I installed had the same size cap as the Motive came with, so I didn't need to Rube Goldberg anything up. (It fits most Ate/Girling reservoirs) Still required my son to get the last little bit of air out.
TBH, the thing that motive really shines at is filling rear ends/transaxles with gear lube. Just make sure you do it on a warm day.
I heard somewhere that sometimes contaminants can affect the master cylinder and give you serious issues but with the pressure you clear that junk out with little issue and without the need to involve the MC by pumping. Just saying. A buddy is a great thing to have around .
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