My block has 2689 stamped on it.

Anyone have an idea what these cars value are? This one is like new with only 1200 miles on it.

Thanks

Popee

Tell us more about the car (options?) and post some pics.

Values of these cars (like a lot of things) went ballistic through COVID but seem to be coming back at least towards earth recently.

Get a mirror and look on the back of the engine cooling shroud to see if there is writing on it.  On a VS might see "1915" in white paint.

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I’m the 3rd owner. Car was built by Vintage Motorcars in Hawaiian Gardens. It has 2000 km or about 1200 miles on it. I’m posting pictures.

Do you know what size carburetors are on the engine?  On the carb bases there should be a number along with the model type- probably 40, maybe 44 or even 48.  Knowing the carburetors on it will give us an idea of the engine size and power output.

That car looks pristine.  Ought to be at the top of the market, I'd say.  And I doubt that number has anything to do with displacement.

The answer is there is no way to tell displacement without taking a cylinder head off of the engine. If you take a head off you can measure bore and stroke and valve sizes.

Unless, of course, the size is written on the back of the fan shroud.

Many Vintages of the Kirk Duncan era(and I'm assuming this is) had 1600, 1776, 1915,2110, or maybe 2332 engines.

Although, it may not be a Kirk car, it may be a Greg Leach car. There is no squiggly alternator wire, which was a tell-tale Kirk thing.

Perhaps call Vintage Motorcars Inc. in Hawaiian Gardens and give them the number stamped on the engine case, as well as the chassis number. They may have records.

Thanks Guys for the reply’s. Anyone out there in the Tustin, Orange area? I would like to learn more about this little car. Any events, cars and coffee, clubs?

Ha,  just went and looked at the back of my fan shroud with a mirror and it says, 9-25-17 and 2165cc.     I was told it was a 2165 but had no way of telling prior to reading this post.

Thanks for that tip, Joe in Hudson (Fl.)

might be a Roland Rascon motor

@barncobob posted:

might be a Roland Rascon motor

If it is and nothing has been swapped it should have the displacement number on the back of the fan shroud. My 2004 had it but I decided to swap the aftermarket shroud and engine tin with OEM around 2006.

@joe18d

where did you find the marking exactly ? Right hand side or - left hand ? What size approx ?

You see it from inside the engine compartment - behind the shroud - or you can see it only from below the car ? Thank you

My car has white scribble on the passenger side of the dog house facing the firewall.

Joe in Hudson (Fl)

@Kuehl- You'll need a small mirror, looking from above at the backside of the shroud (between the shroud and firewall) on the passenger side.  You won't see anything from below.

@joe18d posted:

My car has white scribble on the passenger side of the dog house facing the firewall.

Joe in Hudson (Fl)

That number should be the displacement on the motor.

Thanks for your input.

I checked behind the shroud with a mirror - no markings there.. neither right or left.

It was mentioned it is a 2332 cc engine with two Solex 40-28 carbs.

AS 41 eingine case opened for 94mm cylinders,
new 84mm counter weighted crank
12V Chromoly lightened flywheel
New H beam rods
VM2 cam for Solex Carbs
New German lifters
USA made cam gear
94mm AA piston & cylinders
8mm chromoly head studs
26mm Shadak oil pump with full flow cover
new dual port heads with 40x35,5 valves and single high rev springs
1:1 rockers with stock adjusters and solid shafts
Stock bolt on valve covers
8,2:1 compression ratio
Engine is fully balanced
Valvoline VR1 10/30 oil
CB Magna Spark ignition
NKG D6EA Spark plugs.

This is what it is said to be...

For german TUV I will have to go on a test bench anyhow to prove its output and emission rate..

Here are some photos of my engine.

Thanks

That’s an impressive and detailed build list. Unfortunately unless you measure the diameter of the cylinders you cannot tell and for that you would need to take a head off. For stroke some have measured it through a spark plug hole to find the delta between the cylinder at the bottom and at top.

@Impala - the build sheet says it's a 2332. That's a Greg Leech engine. He used to build them in-house, now has Pat Downs doing them. The "VM2" cam and the heads are the only mystery here - I'm assuming Greg is using a custom grind, since he's running Kads, and unless I'm mistaken, he's used Panchitos on these engines since he's been in Hawaiian Gardens.

I think Kuhl is saying he needs to dyno the engine for TUV certification.

Yes; that VM designation for the cam is a mystery. And you’re right; to me the Kads seem a little small for that displacement, unless they swap venturis and jet them. Coming from builders of that caliber they should work wonderfully. For cams Scat also has their C designations; would be great if they had a table for the Engle equivalents that everyone knows.