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My CMC OUTLAW is still for sale @  $29,500 (negotiable) - new fresh inspection, Brad Penn oil & filter.  Only 3k miles on it. Rare Metal Craft non-twisting tube frame & new rare custom fitted glass hardtop with new Haartz ragtop under it. 2110 cc/1800 lbs/160 HP. Gelcoat looks brand new.

I am 3rd owner. 2nd owner didn't drive it. All sort we d out & has every possible accessory you could want on one of these except Air conditioning, oll up windows or a Suby engine!

New accelerator cable, new shocks, new fuel filter. Run only on non ethanol fuel but runs fine on ethanol fuel too. 10 speakers, cup holders, door pulls, 911 console with 911 clock & 914 glove box.

This us the ultimate Speedster unless you need a super wide body or a coupe. I need Garage spacec for my new 1947 Studebaker M5 Pick Up Street Rod to park in.

Make me an offer!!!

Hi everyone. I am the guy who gave David his one serious offer, but I understand that he can't let it go for that.

I am absolutely head-over-heels in love with his car, but we have young children, a mortgage, college funds to contribute to, etc. We have some savings that I am willing to spend, but at this stage of life, I can't go into debt for a toy.

I want to be sure to say that David is a true gentleman. He understands my infatuation with the car and has tried to work with me on the price. It is going to break my heart when I hear/see/read that the car has sold. I just hope that the next owner is truly passionate about it and gives it the care it deserves.

for a beautiful car and a great guy!

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@Teach     I have worked on David's speedster when I still had my shop in PA  The fit and finish are very well done. The desirable hard top we custom fit the the car with simple on and off fasteners and custom side curtains. The Metal Craft chassis is much sought after as it greatly increases the overall handling and ride and the list of plus's goes on and on with David's Speedster. Replica Speedster values are constantly appreciating which for every owner, is a positive financial investment.  IMHO and Speedster build experiences a $15k Speedster usually falls into an intense project category.  David's Speedster is very well sorted  with no known faults and is ready for a buyer's enjoyment. $29,500 is not a stretch value wise. 

@Teach     I have worked on David's speedster when I still had my shop in PA  The fit and finish are very well done. The desirable hard top we custom fit the the car with simple on and off fasteners and custom side curtains. The Metal Craft chassis is much sought after as it greatly increases the overall handling and ride and the list of plus's goes on and on with David's Speedster. Replica Speedster values are constantly appreciating which for every owner, is a positive financial investment.  IMHO and Speedster build experiences a $15k Speedster usually falls into an intense project category.  David's Speedster is very well sorted  with no known faults and is ready for a buyer's enjoyment. $29,500 is not a stretch value wise. 

If I wasn't already balls deep into my own $17K "intense project", I'd have already jumped on David's Speedster. Very sweet little ride, and I absolutely love the look of the hardtop.   

I'm still entertaining offers - most serious potential buyer offered max of $15k. I will not let it go for that with its custom Hard Top & Metalcraft tube frame.  Freshly inspected, oil & filter changed. Ready to roll to it's next owner. Only 3,000 miles on it & thoroughly sorted out. Plug & play!!!

What a douche! That offer is an absolute insult! Don't budge off of your price, it's easily worth that. Wait it out.

Nice car, @DAVID BAYNE - BAYNIAC - Camp Hill - PA⁷. It's worth the ask (and a lot more) with the chassis and top

... but I totally understand the limits of the offer. If that's what you've got @Teach, just wait for one where the ask is a bit closer to your budget. Nobody will sell for $.50 on the dollar, and you'll likely just honk people off by asking. I did that once, and blew my chances at what would have been a great car at a price I could afford at the time. I will say that your willingness to sacrifice will either grow or you'll find something else to spend your $15K on (and you can find a lot of automotive love for $15K.... just not with a Speedster).

When I first got into this hobby 20 years ago, I thought I only had $13K to give. I was way, way (way) wrong. You'll have more money as time passes, or you'll find some other way to scratch the itch. The earth is littered with $15K Boxsters and Miatas, and they are fine cars.

If you do climb on the horse, you'll give $30K... one way or another. It's best to start out with the car that's a stretch, rather than trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

Buy once, cry once. 

None of us, that have these vehicles, usually are hard pressed to sell. But, these are different times, for some.  The uncertainty of what lies down the road for most of us causes us to hold back. I believe this is an excellent value and car for the person who is looking to buy now.  I think your price is perfect David Bayne and feel that you should wait if you can.

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@WOLFGANG posted:

There is no sense putting $ in the bank - CD now get .05%.  With Covid and whatever will come next - your best investment would be a classic car.  College can't get away with charging $25k per year for distance leaning.  Go for it an enjoy the time you have left.  

Classic cars are a hobby. They provide satisfaction, pride of ownership, happiness and even sheer joy at times, plus periods of challenge and frustration. The amount of money some people sink into this hobby is staggering, take Jay Leno for example. Cars can be an obsession bordering on madness. But if you're fortunate enough to have the extra scratch and a spouse who shares your madness, this hobby is loads of fun. 

Every financial advisor will tell you, however, that with few exceptions, classic cars make for awful investments. To make money, you have to maintain and repair the vehicle, register and insure it, store it indoors in a non-condensing, rodent and bug free environment, accrue as few miles as possible, and have the good fortune to pick a car that's increasing in value. You can't get attached, since you'll have to sell when conditions are optimal. All of this costs money, especially if you pay others to perform maintenance. 

If you want to invest, find some solidly-performing mutual funds with risk profiles that match your goals. Or hire a good financial advisor to manage your investments. But don't buy classic cars unless you can afford to splurge. You'll find better odds at the casino. 

 

... don't buy classic cars unless you can afford to splurge. You'll find better odds at the casino. 

I'm reminded of "lottery man" at my local C-store of choice. You know the guy-- male of indeterminate age, arrives on foot or a DUI-bike, stakes his claim at the register. His general MO is to pick out 23 different scratch-off tickets (one at a time) and order several packs of brand-name smokes. He's always short, so he goes about dealing down-- exchanging the name-brand smokes for generics, then dropping packs until his cash will cover everything.

He's scratching off tickets as he does the cigarette shell game, and exchanging them-- not for anything tangible, but for more tickets. All I want to do is pay for my soda and leave, but this man owns the register until he's scratched every ticket and turned the "winners" in for more tickets.

I'd like to step in and tell the guy it'd be more efficient and more rewarding for him to just give me the $23, and I'll give him a five.

Cars are kinda' the same way, only I'm the DUI guy. Even when I "make money", I've lost way more than I'll ever get back-- and a guy has to be good with that, or he's in the wrong hobby.

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