News from Henry Reisner.

Ummm........

What am I seeing, here?

I believe that is called a "teaser," Gordon.  Does make one curious, doesn't it?

Ah....    Facebook finally displayed something and you're right - A teaser.

I didn't think Henry could sit around or visit sea islands for long.

Thanks for the link!

OK. I still don't get it. For the simpleminded, what am I supposed to get from this?

It doesn't come up every time because of FB's stupid algorithm, but here's what Bob was talking about.

I couldn't see it either but I am really looking forward to the next treffen ... I might even drive across the land for that.  @Bob: IM S6

What are we guessing he's going to produce or sell there?

Thanks, Stan. Nowhere on the FB page when I bring it up.

and now available on instagram.
https://www.instagram.com/reisner.carrozzeria/

Reisner Coachworks.

Interesting...

Sorry for the dead links.  Somedays, that's how I feel, too.

This definitely looks like a badge for a hood:

But it's not a Prancing Bull?

Let's hope he brings back the Italia with a nice 2L 4 cyl turbo or 3L V6 - maybe from a BMW!  BMW 6 is a mild hybrid.

I’d take a WAG that Intermeccanica switched to fiberglass when he came to America was because the tech was here. The  carrozzeria were not. There are probably 20 within 100 miles of Milan.

Kirkhams has still his cobras made in Poland AFAIK.

But I hear you. I would love to see Italias made again.

eta: A fiberglass Italia designed to use NA or MB Miata components would be a smashing idea, imo.

https://www.facebook.com/reisn...zeria/friends_recent

here is a beginning here is a beginning

HE'S BACK!!!

Three years ago I restored an older pan based Intermeccanica Speedster for a friend that resides in Key West, it had a chrome Carrozzeria script on the lower right fender.

OG, The Original is back ..

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Well, speaking of Intermeccanica's roots, maybe it's time for a new take on Italian style with Yankee muscle. Drop an LS3 in the back of this and presto — the perfect urban commute car, but with no range anxiety.

This could be the vehicle to pull us together as a nation. Sized right for NPR listeners, but a drivetrain that won't embarrass middle America.

And quarter-mile times in the low 12's.

Now would be an excellent time to talk about the ills of the American full-sized pickup truck, and all the evil hate it spreads in the world, carrying building materials and hauling heavy trailers.

The horror.

Ah, a woodie tuk-tuk!

Could a motorcyle sidecar be added to a Solo - to increase utility?  Could be multiversital with tinted dome for bad weather, open flatbed for Lowe runs, screened in for taking the furry dog along.  Could even carry a range extender battery pack and pop open solar awning? 

Ok how about making that a trailer

Speedster with Boxter underpinnings

@Bob: IM S6  The facebook posting shows nothing

Well, this is all very fine and good, but sheds more heat than light.  I have no idea what this means.  But I might guess.  Henry back in the replicar business?  That would be a really sweet deal.

@El Frazoo posted:

Well, this is all very fine and good, but sheds more heat than light.  I have no idea what this means.  But I might guess.  Henry back in the replicar business?  That would be a really sweet deal.

I believe it's called a "teaser", which some folks think ramps up the anticipation, but which just seems (as you say) like more heat than light.

I doubt it'll be manufacturing replica 356s, since Meccanica is still an ongoing concern, and Henry doubtless signed a not to compete. But whatever he has up his sleeve will be better than having him tucked away and out of the game.

@IaM-Ray posted:

@Bob: IM S6  The facebook posting shows nothing

@Stan Galat posted:

It doesn't come up every time because of FB's stupid algorithm, but here's what Bob was talking about.

You caught this, right?

There is another Facebook post by Bob. On the lovers of all things, Intermeccanica.

@Stan Galat posted:

I believe it's called a "teaser", which some folks think ramps up the anticipation, but which just seems (as you say) like more heat than light.

I doubt it'll be manufacturing replica 356s, since Meccanica is still an ongoing concern, and Henry doubtless signed a not to compete. But whatever he has up his sleeve will be better than having him tucked away and out of the game.

I would imagine though if Solomeccanica or any of the other Whatevermneccanicas go belly up then any non-competes should be out the window. But I'm not a lawyer. However, I've watched every season, every episode, and every version of Law and Order ever made.

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Maybe Henry has the fix for the mystery bug in the Solo's and he's going to sell it back to them, one car at a time.

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@Robert M posted:

I would imagine though if Solomeccanica or any of the other Whatevermneccanicas go belly up then any non-competes should be out the window. But I'm not a lawyer. However, I've watched every season, every episode, and every version of Law and Order ever made.

There's only one company, and it's still being traded on Nasdaq, although with a $.51/share trading price, I'm not sure how long before it's delisted.

Regardless - the statement stands: as long as the parent company is solvent, the not-to-compete I'm assuming exists is still in force.

This is why I've been cheering for a quick and painless dissolution of Elecrameccanica Vehicles Corp. I want an unfettered Henry Reisner, not bound by any agreement.

Frank Reisner made an agreement not to build Speedsters for a period of time after he sold his half of the company in CA. That prompted the development of the Convertible D replica, but it also tied his hands for a time if somebody wanted a Speedster.

In general, I really hate not-to-compete agreements. If companies want to retain employees and have them not compete, then they should pay them enough to stay. It's one thing to demand that employees not poach customers while they are in the company's employ, but to limit their ability to make a living after there is no longer an employer/employee relationship seems stupid and small.

I'd love to see what an unencumbered Henry Resiner would do.

You may not like non-compete clauses but that is the only way to protect the value of the goodwill which can be a substantial financial amount that is attached to a companies sale price for a business process or market or intellectual property, that would take years for the buyer to build.  I know you know this, but once a seller has received, in this case the value for his company it is easy to feel somewhat cheated, or at least dissapointed if you still have a love to do the work of the company you sold.  Just saying.  

P.S. I hope the value of IM received by HS is sufficient for his long term security and enough to enjoy his life, and a full yes to seeing HS unleashed to the car market as there is a definite change in the air.  

Finally, as we boomers go the way of all flesh the market will shift in my opinion as all these treasure cars become available on the market.

@Robert M posted:

I would imagine though if Solomeccanica or any of the other Whatevermneccanicas go belly up then any non-competes should be out the window. But I'm not a lawyer. However, I've watched every season, every episode, and every version of Law and Order ever made.

I made similar comments in another thread. I was poo-poo'd. I agree with you Robert.

But, I am no attorney either. I didn't even stay at Holiday Inn last night.

We really don't have enough information to form a position on this with What'chacallit-Mechanicca, but all I've seen happen with Non-Compete "agreements"  (NCA) is they disrupt someone's life for a year or so as they play out.  Over 80% of the time, the employee wins against an NCA because the place he/she left can't prohibit him/her from making a living.  Normally, if you worked at a place that discharged it's employees and shuttered it's doors, then any NCAs from that company become null, even if they defined a period of time after the place closes - Everything nulls on the last day they are in business (as defined by a judge, not NASDAQ).  

Stan summed it up nicely: "In general, I really hate not-to-compete agreements (Me, too, Stan!). If companies want to retain employees and have them not compete, then they should pay them enough to stay. It's one thing to demand that employees not poach customers while they are in the company's employ, but to limit their ability to make a living after there is no longer an employer/employee relationship seems stupid and small."

It is very seldom about the money the employee makes.  It's usually about advancement potential or work environment.  Interestingly, in my years in high tech, the only people we would see getting prosecuted for NCAs were Marketing and Sales folks, usually for poaching customers, not other employees.  For example, Data General Corporation tried to prosecute some ex-DG Engineers who joined us and the employees won on the make-a-living argument, bolstered by entering into a better working environment (they had been budget-starved at DG and proved it).  

Designers, Engineers and Senior Managers (Director and ^) migrated a lot (me included) and we seldom saw them prosecuted, much less them losing in court.  The biggest hassle was the time needed to show up in court and the cost of lawyers and research for the employee.  Only in one instance did we see a judge put a stay on someone, who left our place to become a CEO at another company, because he formed a team to directly compete with us (we had email evidence) AND he left with our complete customer list.

THAT was a big no-no and the judge sided with the company......

They prosecuted him for over two years and his chosen team found other places to work.  Eventually, he left the new place behind and found another place to screw up work at.

I paid $60K to get out of a NCA in 1997. The customers I took were customers that I had sold (albeit on the company payroll at the time), who would have gone over to my new company, regardless. I paid because I HAD signed (with my back to the wall, as a 1st year apprentice) a NCA, and I have some honor. I'd never sign one again.

This particular NCA never would have held up in court. As an aside - my old company reneged on the terms of the contract anyhow. My former boss never thought I'd make it and told me so every time he saw me for 15 years. He's 70 now, and can't let go of what he's built (even though he told me 25 years ago he'd be out and living on a beach by 2000). He's the kind of guy who built his desk on a platform, so he could look down on anybody who came into his office for a meeting.

So, I'm pretty hardcore against NCAs. I understand exactly WHY they exist, but in this instance Electrameccanica is not building replica Speedsters, so I doubt they would prevail in court.

Regardless, I hate 'em on principle. Let the market decide who to do business with.

Sorry to hear that Stan I know how they can be used to vulture on new entries into a profession or trade..: just like all things you develop while under the employer is their property and proving it might just enrich the liers.

@DannyP posted:

I made similar comments in another thread. I was poo-poo'd. I agree with you Robert.

But, I am no attorney either. I didn't even stay at Holiday Inn last night.

I thought somebody else said it. I didn’t remember where, or who, that happens a lot these days, but I was sure someone said it.

@Robert M posted:

I thought somebody else said it. I didn’t remember where, or who, that happens a lot these days, but I was sure someone said it.

Happens to me more often than I'd like as well.