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Damn Theron, closed the thread just as it was getting going.  I would like to report in. Yes at least 12 times a day on the FB version. Quarantining will do that to you. And lots of PM's to Ed at al. updating my status.  Which goes something like this: Prologue: I've been dealing with pollen reaction this spring and having nasal congestion from time to time and taking Alegra for same. Drove to Carlisle Thursday under those conditions, met Dale and Ed for lunch in Frederick, and then did the cruise and schmooze thing Thurs and Fri. Sorta felt peculiar later Fri, with more pollen-like symptoms.  Saturday off and on, no big deal. Sunday headed home, and took a rapid test. Positive.  Still not feeling very bad. So when did it get me? can't say.  Likely Fri-Sat. Had mild 1 deg elevated temp for two days only.  Stuffy nose, nagging cough, and quarantining.  Feeling better each day and today (Day 5??) pretty OK. So far, I know Bruce and Norma also positive, and Lane, plus Connie.  Others are testing and coming back negative.  I believe everyone who was there at any time was notified.  I offer my sincere apologies for not figuring this out quicker.  And the virus does not come with a return address, so where I was when it landed, i have no idea.  My sweetie Babs, whom I last saw Wed PM and did not attend, tested negative on Sunday. And yes nobody was masking.  Everyone there was vaxed and boosted, so far as I know. And yes, others in the wider circle tested positive before they would have come, and so did not.  It is what it is.  As Jeni has pronounced: this thing is here to stay, at least for a good while more.  The simplest thing to realize is: sooner or later everyone is going to get it.  Kinda like the flu -- do you know anybody who has never had the flu, ever?  very few and far between, I'll bet. So that's the bad news.  The good news: Vax and boost works, and the highly contagious variant does seem to carry rather mild symptoms, with some coming around asymptomatic. Last thought: being vaxed and boosted does not mean you can't catch the virus, only that you will have a much much better head start on your native antibodies so they can deal with it right off.  hence much less impact on the system, and by and large no H, and you live to tell the tale.

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I was sick at Christmas, Kelly, when they were still advocating a full 7 days isolation (which, of course, my Registered Nurse wife who works in the Intensive Care unit of the biggest hospital in the area and has watched too many people die of this mess in the last 2 years) and when I got sick at Christmas she made me stay locked away TO THE HOUR!  I don't mind laying around for a little bit every once in a while, and yeah, there was the TV and the laptop, but talk about going stir crazy...

PS- Glad you're on the mend.  I was double vaccinated and really didn't get that sick either- a slight fever for 4 days (just enough that I only slept an hour or 2 at a time so I was up at all hours), a sore throat for 1½ days and a cough that lingered for a week or so.

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Wise words Kelly. Glad you are feeling better. And Jeni is right. It’s not going anywhere. Like influenza which raised its ugly head as the Spanish flu just after WWI, COVID is here to stay. Everyone will eventually be exposed to it. Unfortunately being exposed to Omicron doesn’t necessarily give you immunity to the other variants so yes you can get COVID over and over again just like the flu. But the good news is that if you have had COVID and you also get vaccinated your immunity level to severe infection is tremendous. Anyone who has had COVID and thinks they are immune to further infection is kidding themselves. The best immunity it appears is from a combination of natural immunity and the vaccine. I think in the future you will be given the opportunity to not only get the influenza (flu) vaccine every year but also the COVID vaccine. It’s just something we will have to learn to live with. And we have to keep living our lives to the fullest.

Impressive turnaround on my PCR test today at a local hospital (Holy Name, Teaneck NJ): Test around 9:30, negative result reported around 3:30. At-home antigen test -- because I was concerned I might not get the PCR results until tomorrow -- also negative.

Like Ed above, I've had my second booster and will continue to get topped up whenever "they" say it's a good time to do so.

I'm hoping for good outcomes for all, not only on this go-round but on all your interactions. Enjoy the sportscar weather and take good care of yourselves and your loved ones.

Bill K.

@El Frazoo et al

So glad to hear that your symptoms are mild (pretty much for everyone, so far) and I understand how hard it might be to figure out where the heck anyone got exposed.  If it was easy, then “contact tracing” wouldn’t be so difficult to do, either.  

It’s also really hard this Spring, with high pollen counts, to figure out if you have your regular seasonal allergies or Covid - The early symptoms seem the same, so you don’t know until you test.

Anyway, I pray that those who turn positive have mild symptoms and are not too inconvenienced by their quarantining (sounds like Lane has quarantining figured out) and that you all come out of it just fine.

I just tested positive. My wife asked if I was sure....of course, I'm positive. My at home test did not work...no results at all....so went to urgent care today. Same symptoms as Kelly....allergies except they don't cause coughing and sore throat. After hearing about Kelly's experience I stopped taking allergy meds and realized they weren't working. Was told that isolation is 5 days from first symptoms. Therefore, Lane needs to get back to work. We're plann9ng to go camping Monday.

The CDC in this post Pre Omicron data https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volum...104e1.htm#contribAff

https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/113253

The bottom graph, indicates that vaccination is not as good as prior infection and recovery in providing long term protection. If you got Delta the robustness of your natural immunity is pretty long lasting, again a lot of those people got two doses as well after the fact so the lines shown overlap.  It suggests that natural immunity is superior and on going in providing protection,  but again many researchers say that you should have the vaccines to add to it.  IMO, this may not be totally correct as vaccination protection wanes, but it is the current mantra, and if you have multiple disease states and are at risk then you should consider vaccination protection.

Going forward with newer strains and variants we may be chasing the right vaccine as we do with the flu, but natural immunity is a lot longer lasting that some people believed.

Finally,  I personally wish a good old fashion protein vaccine was created and then submitted to a large randomised clinical trial.  Something that needed to be done from the get go by other vaccine makers.

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It is a term used for an old fashion process of creating a vaccine where the whole virus is killed or inactivated, many methods,  and you then have the whole DNA of the virus for the immune system to react to and provide a broader spectrum, so to speak, or a better fuller more complete template for the body to create the maximum immunity to the virus thus getting better long lasting immunity with higher chances that there will be less viral shift/strains that develop.

A good vaccine, provides protection for you and for others.  If it does not provide any protection for others, which is now the case, and now vaccinated people are carriers then one has to asks is this a still a good vaccine?  What is left is protecting yourself.  

After two years and all the strains of the virus we are at a different place than in the first 90 days.

Great information here, learned some new stuff.  Like there could be another protein type vax that would actually work a lot better than the things we have now, but take a lot longer to develop and distribute.  Interesting.  Is anybody actually working that angle?

And FWIW I hear that if you run a mild case and go asymptomatic around five days, mask up for another five then are "good to go" at day 10 or so, not contagious, you can still throw a positive test for up to a few months.  And as stated: you can get it again.  and you can pass it along, again.   What it seems that you won't do is go to the H and then die.  So I'm counting that as a plus.

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