Puma with 2110

If I want forced induction I can drive my Crossfire SRT-6 it is modified and developing 450Hp. That is plenty to appease my go fast urges..

I forgot you have more cars than time to drive them at this point  

DannyP good point on the pan vs frame.

Engine choice, if you want to use a stock ECU, you are limited in years ie 2008 ish more or less, small car has a list of what years are available with the stock ECU but you can also use a Subarugears digital gadget but I have no experience or recommendation with that one.   

I think Carey has a good program getting used cars and a new Short block with stock ECU. IMO.

Hi Ed,

Thanks for providing the data on Subaru's attempt to get 2.5L performance from a 2.0L block.  I should have qualified my statement to say that it is RARE to find 10:1 compression on a turbo Subaru engine.

Some CR data below:

EJ205: 8.5:1; EJ207: 8:1; EJ20TT: 8.75:1; EJ22: 9.5:1; EJ222: 10:1; EJ226 8:1; EJ25 (n/a) 9.5:1; EJ255 8.4:1; EJ257 8.7:1

My main objection is your statement above: "literally any junkyard Subaru mill you can find comes with a static CR at 10 or above", which is hyperbole on your part and just not true.

Nice score, Jimmy. Looking forward to seeing your progress. 

FWIW, a couple of years ago I took my car into the local Weber/Dellorto experts to have some fine, tuning done and when I went to pick it up the following day, this guy was there. 

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@dlearl476 posted:

Nice score, Jimmy. Looking forward to seeing your progress. 

FWIW, a couple of years ago I took my car into the local Weber/Dellorto experts to have some fine, tuning done and when I went to pick it up the following day, this guy was there. 

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@dlearl476 Photo didn’t show. 

Really?  It shows for me in both my post and your reply. 

Better?

Probably because it’s archived in your cookies. I’ve had the same thing happen.  It’s showing now. 

@DannyP posted:

I wouldn't get too crazy with power in a Puma. It is basically a pan Speedster.

Yeah, let's throw a 250 hp turbo mill in there. Torsion leaf front suspension, recirculating ball steering box, etc..... Let's throw some turbo power in there, just so you can REALLY upset the very marginal chassis at 180hp, just add 60-70 more. Make sure the brakes are stock too, for that extra pucker factor.

Marty and Ray and Bob can get away with a lot in an IM tube-frame with 911 suspension.

I'd wager the Puma would not do as well.

My two cents.

Or should we say- it won't work! blah blah blah!

You're getting to be an old man! Where's your sense of adventure?

And @edsnova wrote- "With that understanding, it's theoretically possible to build a Type 1 engine to 10+ CR and turbo it AND have it last a long time. All you would need is like 8 knock sensors, Some kind of variocam system on your rocker arms, special heads, EFI and crankfire ignition (of course)... And probably a new kind of case with five main bearings and a special crank to go with it."

You forgot watercooled heads, Ed. THEN it'll work...

Danny wrote: "Yeah, let's throw a 250 hp turbo mill in there. Torsion leaf front suspension, recirculating ball steering box, etc..... Let's throw some turbo power in there, just so you can REALLY upset the very marginal chassis at 180hp, just add 60-70 more. Make sure the brakes are stock too, for that extra pucker factor."

Meh.  

Both my Corvair powered Deserter Dune Buggy and Steve McQueen's Corvair powered custom Manx buggy were over 200hp on a VW pan, trailing arm fronts, Yadda-Yadda.  McQueen's was a bit stiffer than mine and had 4-wheel disks and front beam stiffeners, too.  I think it was built by Pete Condos(?) out in SoCal for the "Thomas Crowne Affair" but he was told by McQueen that he might drive it in the Baja 1000 "so make the sucker rugged".

There was a bunch of us from the Mass. Beach Buggy Association who went out to the Provincetown dunes area on outer Cape Cod to watch the filming of the beach segments and we all got to see the buggy and meet McQueen.  He knew everything about that buggy, like he had made it himself.  He did his own driving in the movie but Faye Dunnaway bailed after the first ride and they used a stunt double.

200 hp on the dunes is one thing. Over 200 at the limit on pavement is quite another.

The amount of seat time I have at, over, and near the limit tells me I'm right.

Al, get your car done! Gordon, cheers!

250 Hp Corvair powered mid engine vintage formula Atlantic race car we used to set FTD's auto crossing every time out. I remember one time the engine backfired on startup on the start line and the foam in the intake box right behind my head caught fire. I had know idea until the safety steward doused me with a fire extinguisher.  The corvair engine was super tricked out with 11:1 CR. custom built heads with intake tubes running to each cylinder and a 750CFM Quadrajet 4 barrel carb. Car ran on 110 octane race fuel only. The 900 lb car was a rocket. It was touted as the fastest Corvair on the planet. The car was built by Corvair go fast guru Warren Leveque.

@DannyP posted:

200 hp on the dunes is one thing. Over 200 at the limit on pavement is quite another.

The amount of seat time I have at, over, and near the limit tells me I'm right.

Al, get your car done! Gordon, cheers!

My engine is supposed to be 125hp, but my guess is that it's closer to 100. It's plenty for me in a 1300lb car. And it keeps the feel of an original better IMO.  Driving a slow car fast is a lot more fun than driving a fast car slow. 

Last summer I ran into a few guys that I went to high school with (or their big or little brothers) at a car show. They all had Cobra replicas. Kirkhams (they're her in town) Factory 5's, etc. To a man, they all wished they'd made 289's. They said the 427's were just brutal and they used their cars a lot less often because of it. 

This is heresy and I absolutely agree. Sometimes too much really is too much, and those times occur most often when 56-year-old us obtains the thing 15-year-old us longed for all these years. 

Let's face it: 15-year-old us was a dumbass. 

I am recently back from vacation and ready to get the Puma work started. I pulled the sick 2110/48 weber engine out yesterday. I was a snap. I pulled in alone in 2 hours and it took a better part of an hour to mark all the wiring as I disconnected it. The car has same type of fancy higher energy spark creating ignition deal . Does anyone know this brand of ignition system? I have always used a good high output Bosch coil and a Pertronix ignition setup in a 009 distributor and that has done fine. Sometimes people install super high energy (supposedly) system thinking it will fix an issue that is really rich carb settings or not running a fuel pressure gauge on Weber carbs and gas is blasting past the shut off seats.

 Having a lift makes engine removal easier. I have a rolling table that fits between the rails of the lift. Once the engine bolts are removed the car is lowered until the oil pan is sitting on the table. I then yack the engine away from the transaxle and onto the table then raising the lift and car up and away from the engine sitting on the table.

 I am going to drop the engine off to the engine builder Monday. The exhaust is going to be swapped for an A1 1 5/8" Sidewinder. More to come as the engine guy takes the engine apart. I may pull the heads today if I have time just to see the actual type of head compared to the info. I was given and find out why number 3 cylinder has super low compression.  Oh and I am going to remove the stage 3 pressure plate and install a stage 1 like it should have. I stage 3 would handle a 400 hp V8. 

Now would be a perfect time to tidy up that engine bay.

Maybe start a new thread somewhere other than the classifieds.

I believe it's a Jacob's ignition, @Jimmy V. There's a guy on the Samba (Scott Novak) that's a big fan of them- https://www.thesamba.com/vw/fo...rder=asc&start=0

For even more in-depth reading about ignitions look up Samba posts from Scott and Fred Winterburn.  Al 

As requested I have moved the Puma content to the Forum part of the site.

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