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The bumper brackets, Troy.  Just like all of us had to deal with.

@wombat wrote: "Tried VW bars and they hit the bumper brackets--which would need a deep notch cut into them. Which I'd rather not do."

Well, OK, but most of us who have front anti-sway bars have done just that with zero after effects other than a flatter cornering ride.  Notching the bumper brackets is trivial.

@MusbJim has posted great photos of his bumper mount mods as part of this thread:

https://www.speedsterowners.co...0#449833773601483720

  Print those photos and take them and your bumper brackets to a local welder and they can very easily modify them to notch them for your anti-sway bar and it will never interfere with anything.  Ask any local mechanic (like the place where you get your car inspected) for a good local welder - They all know each other.  Price range should be anywhere between $50 - $100 for both of them, done.  

Mark them as to left, right and top before you remove them so they're oriented the same after the mods, just to be safe.

If you still don't wish to go this route, then you're stuck with what you've got.

Last edited by Gordon Nichols

@wombat as you can see, this sway bar /bumper bracket issue is common with VS (and other pan-based replica Speedsters). Some have installed their sway bar upside down thinking the unweighted car (wheels off the ground) gives clearance to the sway bar, but once the wheels are back on the ground and suspension in operating position, the sway bar comes into contact with the bumper brackets (what's that knocking sound I hear whenever I go over bump?).  This upside down application may seem to be a quick and simple fix, but this method makes the sway bar the lowest part of the suspension and decreases the car's road clearance significantly exposing the lowered sway bar to road obstacles (and unsafe) on rough roads (bumps, dips, speed bumps, road debris, etc.)

Your 2015 Vintage Speedsters (Kirk) does not have a narrowed beam (unless you specifically asked Kirk for them). Removing the bumper brackets is simple, un-bolting a few nuts & bolts, making the suggested modifications (notch) and re-installing.

You may be thinking well, I don't want to go through that process, I'll just do without sway bars. Then, you will miss the significant handling improvements that sway bar (front) and a camber-compensator (rear) provides. Night & day difference.

I'm just saying...

Last edited by MusbJim

Wombat, Everyone has the same problem with the bumper brackets. You have two choices. Either do as Wolfgang indicated (that's the common solution). Or build your own bumper brackets. You may want to check my profile page and look for driving light mounts. This design could be modified to be used for the bumper mount with heavier angle

I also built a sway bar for my Spyder that bolts to the VW front beam. It will work on the Speedster without modification. Dannyp built one of similar design but easier to build and accomplishes the same thing.

The bumper brackets, Troy.  Just like all of us had to deal with.

@wombat wrote: "Tried VW bars and they hit the bumper brackets--which would need a deep notch cut into them. Which I'd rather not do."

Well, OK, but most of us who have front anti-sway bars have done just that with zero after effects other than a flatter cornering ride.  Notching the bumper brackets is trivial.

@MusbJim has posted great photos of his bumper mount mods as part of this thread:

https://www.speedsterowners.co...0#449833773601483720

  Print those photos and take them and your bumper brackets to a local welder and they can very easily modify them to notch them for your anti-sway bar and it will never interfere with anything.  Ask any local mechanic (like the place where you get your car inspected) for a good local welder - They all know each other.  Price range should be anywhere between $50 - $100 for both of them, done.  

Mark them as to left, right and top before you remove them so they're oriented the same after the mods, just to be safe.

If you still don't wish to go this route, then you're stuck with what you've got.

Gorden. He must have posted while I was asking my question; I didn't see his description of the problem.   

But, I've had lots of Vintage Speedsters with front anti-sway bars that did not need to have any modification to the bumper brackets.  I know his car is a Vintage, but is there some difference between the bumper brackets on a Vintage vs a car from one of the other vendors?

@R Thorpe posted:

Greg Leach of Vintage Motocars of California is Wolfgang? Yikes.

Umm, no.

Greg Leach of VMC is VintageGreg or VSpyder, depending on website. Proprietor and builder of fine Spyders, Speedsters, and pre-A bent window coupes.

Greg Seitz of Florida is Wolfgang, knower of Speedster things! He has a in-process home-build Speedster. It will be finished someday, hopefully by Greg and not by whoever his wife sells it to! LOL!

@MusbJim posted:

This is a good example of the confusion between VS (Vintage Speedsters when owned by Kirk Duncan) and VMC (Vintage Motorcars /Vintage Spyders owned by Greg Leach). Two totally separate entities in entirely different orbits. That is why I specifically referenced ' VS...Kirk' in my response to @wombat.

Greg (aka @WOLFGANG) is another story...

VS = Vintage Speedster
VS = Vintage Spyder


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