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JNAKOTA O, real overrider bars are hard to find and as far as I know, there are no more aftermarket bars to fit our cars as the man who made them, Bob Chase-Grey Eagle, sadly passed last year. http://www.greyeagleoverriderbars.com/

He was going to make me a set but finances held me off and then it was too late.

I keep looking, but the stock bars won't fit without modifications which Bob could do and I can't. I've even considered making a set using soft copper pipe but haven't. Maybe someone will pick up Bob's torch one day but it's doubtful.

Will

I suspect the only way to do this well would be to make a prototype out of something-- soft copper makes the most sense, then make a buck so that a steel tube could be bent to be identical. That'd mean the buck would have to fit the original prototype perfectly, and whatever you made with steel would have to as well.

If this were in one plane, it would be hard. The fact that it's a compound curve makes it diabolical.

aircooled posted:

Who makes the vertical bars ? (not the towel racks) Are they made of aluminum ? A casting ? what do they cost ?.....Bruce

Yes, they are/were cast aluminum then polished. As Alan pointed out they are $150 a pair now from Vintage Motor cars.  Vintage Speedster Parts will sell you a left one for only $185! - they other side isn't listed so may be a typo.  It does say they are made in USA?  (Their prices have recently doubled plus shipping is now a fixed $25).  Carey did say he stopped buying them from VSP since many were pitted with air pockets and could not be polished up.  Note these are the std low over riders and not for the towel bars.

http://vintagespeedsterparts.c...perguardright-1.aspx

My bet is that even Intermecchanica can't get 'em. Bob was the only guy in the world (that I'm aware of) who made them. The bars for our cars have to be bent differently than the stock P-cars as our bumpers are narrower in cross-section than stock bumpers (our bumpers are lighter, cheaper and look better, I think).

I have a set of 4 bumperettes made for the low bars. sometime in '56 or '57 Porsche started making the bumperettes and the overrider bars higher and went from the one-piece rear overrider to 2 pieces, mainly for license plate visibility (front and rear). But even the bumperettes for overriders have to be customized, as the cross-section of the stock bumpers is higher than ours, they have to be custom-fitted to our bumpers which involves welding more material in places and removing some in others. It all adds up to a monumental amount of work. Honestly, it would probably be cheaper to purchase stock P-car bumpers and watch the Samba or 356 Registry for a set and have the bumpers painted to match your car than trying to find the overrider bars to fit our cars.

Here's examples (front and rear) of the low bars, they're about an inch less than the later/higher bars and (I think) look super cool. Typical of Porsche back then, some cars had the shine-down light with one piece rear bars and some had the shine-down license light with the 2 piece rear bars, such was Germany post-war production. 

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There is aluminum tubing that could be polished like the stock bumper over-riders as well as bendable stainless steel tubing used for marine applications.  Its used for grab rails, bimini top frames and bow pulpits. It can easily be bent. I'm guessing 5/8" would be best?

part imagehttps://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/32000853

5/8 Inch Outside Diameter x 72 Inch Long, Aluminum Round Tube

0.065 Inch Wall Thickness, Alloy 3003

Safety Jim Buffalo NY. posted:

Since our bumpers are fiberglass, could someone make molds to create the towel bars in FG and then apply a stainless steel or chrome wrap?  Just adding my 1/2 cent...

 

I was thinking about it, and yes you could absolutely do it , and lay a reinforcement in the finished product.  If you wanted to paint the overider bars black or body colour even easier. 

Talking with someone that does dirt track chassis roll bar fabrications  ..Jim suggested the grey electrical plastic conduit as it is easy to heat and bend and once cooled it stays in that configuration for a template. The ideal method would be to copy the towel bars from a car then adjust accordingly for the slightly lower VMC bumper over riders.

 

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