Oh trust me i know how expensive ITB's with EFI can get, my next question was going to be "how handy are you???"
lol, I did a set-up on a Honda SOHC VTEC engine and added motorbike ITB's with megasquirt. Even with the mods to the fuel tank, addition of new line and a return line with the fuel pump, injectors and filters and the dyno time, I was into it for about $1000. I can't believe how much guys charge for EFI over there.
flatfourfan posted:gotcha................ever considered going EFI???
TOO MUCH money and overkill although state of the art! Funny enough, for reasons that I do not fully understand, horse power and torque are greater with carbs although efficiency and gas mileage a considerably less with carbs. EFI is very exacting and one can map out spark and fuel throughout the RPM curve......virtually all new cars, if not all, use fuel injection as carbs are relatively obsolete tech in 2017.
I've done 3 EFI conversions on cars that were carb originally and I'll never go back. The daily drive-ability of EFI cannot be beat.
That thing of turning the key first time and it starts every time and no fettering.......lol.
Bill Prout posted:I love my VW powered 2110 fake Speedster with 44 Webers that have no "flat spots"!
me too!
Banzai Pipeline posted:and his turntable sits on a $10K table to ward off vibrations that are transferred through the chassis of the turntable that might reverberate back into the phono cartridge and alter the sound!
Back in the day I'd hang out at a high-end stereo shop (I ended up making speakers to challenge the DCM Time Windows in the listening room. I didn't win, but my speakers beat the crap out of a lot of other stuff in there).
Anyway, some of the highest-end stuff in the place was made by Bang & Olufsen. The stereo shop guys had this sales technique wherein they would cue up a record on the B&O turntable, which cost something ungodly like maybe $800 or $1,000, and while "Dark Side of the Moon" was cranking they would pack cigarettes on the turntable.
Not a skip or a warble was heard.
We used to solder the end of an extension cord on to worn out 12" subwoofers. We would plug in the extension cord and watch the speaker 'play' a nice 110 bass line until the speaker coil would blow. The result was usually a noisy smoke show. Then we'd put scratched up CDs in the microwave.
Audiophiles.
Will Hesch posted:Bill Prout posted:I love my VW powered 2110 fake Speedster with 44 Webers that have no "flat spots"!
me too!
I love the fact that I've got less invested in my single carb Soob powered Speedster entirely than what they are talking about may be a fix for a flat spot upon acceleration in this case. My car is no show queen for sure ( as well noted by a Carlisle attendee last year wiping his finger on my fender upon our arrival and saying " yew need to clay bar that thang" ) , but 50,000 or so miles since 2010 puts a smile on my face nonthe less.
Oh boy, that's a decent expense but PMO are well, the best carb for that application.
I do not agree, Banzai, that carbs offer the highest horsepower available though. But I agree for your application the PMO makes the most sense. Absolutely.
Stay tuned RE Weber 44 IDF replacement with EFI for my ride. Still contemplating, but I've already got most of it, working crankfire setup and carbs now. To unbolt carbs and install CB throttle bodies and all the rest is the next step.
I've got EFI fuel pump and regulator, CB throttle bodies, fuel rails, correct size injectors(courtesy LennyC). I need to purchase an EFI brain and fabricate a wiring harness. The final hurdle for me will be the mapping as I have no EFI experience. The spark maps should be easy.
David Stroud posted:Will Hesch posted:Bill Prout posted:I love my VW powered 2110 fake Speedster with 44 Webers that have no "flat spots"!
me too!
I love the fact that I've got less invested in my single carb Soob powered Speedster entirely than what they are talking about may be a fix for a flat spot upon acceleration in this case. My car is no show queen for sure ( as well noted by a Carlisle attendee last year wiping his finger on my fender upon our arrival and saying " yew need to clay bar that thang" ) , but 50,000 or so miles since 2010 puts a smile on my face nonthe less. G
Now, David, that’s not exactly true. You’ve spent more on windshields than what my car cost me...😂
I don’t know if that was me or not, but it sure sounds like something I’d say. 😜
i don’t really sound like that, do I?
Bob: IM S6 postedNow, David, that’s not exactly true. You’ve spent more on windshields than what my car cost me...😂
Now that made me laugh!
And I've known some audiophile types that get REALLY crazy about stuff you can't hear. I used to re-solder and re-wire tube amps with Mil-spec(1% tolerance) parts. They "heard" the difference, but I never could. I really liked the comment above about 12-gauge extension cord for speaker wire. Spot on!
Re: Audiophiles:
I'm not proud of it (and it's pretty stupid in hindsight), but I spent my teen years in the basement, listening to/playing music so loud the second floor windows in mom and dad's house rattled. Once I grew up, I spent my life in mechanical rooms so loud I could never hear my phone ring. I wore hearing protection for none of it.
I never could hear the nuances guys were telling me about ("warm" tone, too much gain, etc.). I could hear distortion and reverb, and that was about it. At this point, I can't hear my grandkids when they whisper in my ear, and I have a constant high-pitched buzz (like cicadas) 24/7/365.
I'm sure extension cord of any gauge would be just fine.
I think audiophiles are the only people on earth who claim to know the sound of one hand clapping.
Sacto Mitch posted:
I think audiophiles are the only people on earth who claim to know the sound of one hand clapping.
That's as funny as a ONE LEGGED WAITRESS working at I-HOP
HEaring loss no fun
Banzai Pipeline posted:Sacto Mitch posted:
I think audiophiles are the only people on earth who claim to know the sound of one hand clapping.
Her name is Eileen
molleur posted:Banzai Pipeline posted:Sacto Mitch posted:
I think audiophiles are the only people on earth who claim to know the sound of one hand clapping.
Her name is Eileen
I love it!
Excellent! I needed a good chuckle early on a Monday morning.
Maybe they are just not telling you the truth.
