Looking for a "deal" on 4 lug Spyder specific wheels, with long axle (if that is applicable, which I think it is). As I understand it, and correct me if I am wrong.... I am fairly certain the offset is different for Speedsters vs Spyders and the same for Spyders with short axles. 

Structurally, I don't want damage. Cosmetically, I don't care.

I am not in a rush. I foresee a need for a spare set in the future and may want something I can powder coat, paint or chrome plate. 

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Let me know if the offset really is different. If it isn't I have a set of four lug rims you can have for a very reasonable amount of money. Probably $100 for all four and they are in very good condition. I'm in California but I can leave them at Carey's shop in Indiana when I pick up Anand's Spyder. Shipping from there should be a lot more reasonable.

You'd have a buyer if so (I'll wait for someone to comment and ask around) but I am pretty sure with my long axles, it's a different offset.

No one I know will/can change them for me. 

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Looking for a "deal" on wide-5 lug Vintage 190 Spyder specific wheels, with long axle (if that is applicable, which I think it is). As I understand it, and correct me if I am wrong.... I am fairly certain the offset is different for Speedsters vs Spyders and the same for Spyders with short axles. 

Structurally, I don't want damage. Cosmetically, I don't care.

I am not in a rush. I foresee a need for a spare set in the future and may want something I can powder coat, paint or chrome plate. 

Fixed it for you......

I "might" know someone who can switch your car to short axle/wide5.

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You could make up some cardboard wheels to represent width and off set.  Many Speedster use the long IRS rear and could benefit from different offsets of steel wheels BUT there seems to be none available (especially in chrome).  Different offset alloys are more readily available. You get to choose 4.5x15" or 5.5x15" and that's about it.  4 and  5/16" (or 4 and 1/4") seems to be the standard backspacing.  Easy to push them out with longer lug bolts and wheel spaced -  moving them back away from fender lips NOT so easy.

You can get the rear wheels made to have more offset towards the inside of the car it is not cheap but if you want a staggard foot print you get more grip in the rear. 

Right Ray.... But, I have wheels currently and making a change to short axles and 5xX at some point in the next year. 

Looking for an extra set because I don't have anyone to change the offset

Sorry, not trying to be rude here, I am just confused. I am just looking for a cheap spare set of 4lugs for a Spyder, if someone has them.  

If someone could confirm that, the Spyder with long axles has a different offset than Speedsters and Spyders with short, that would be helpful. 

As I am changing the axles and likely ending up with 5 lug later, I am just wanting a cheap spare set, if someone has them.

I believe the rear wheels Carey uses are just like the 4.5" fronts, but the extra inch on the 5.5" rear wheel is on the INSIDE. Long axles require the wheel centers to be pushed outward, as in maximum "backspace" or offset.

If you're just trying to put something under the car for the winter, buy 4 front wheels and put super cheap 135 or 165R15 on the wheels.

That sounds like what I remember. I was just hoping someone had a cheap set. May be for winters, may be something to mess with that can't be undone with my current wheels until I make the switch.

Not a rush. I find someone with a set, awesome. I don't..... Eh. 

Thanks Danny.

 

@DannyP posted:

I believe the rear wheels Carey uses are just like the 4.5" fronts, but the extra inch on the 5.5" rear wheel is on the INSIDE. Long axles require the wheel centers to be pushed outward, as in maximum "backspace" or offset.

If you're just trying to put something under the car for the winter, buy 4 front wheels and put super cheap 135 or 165R15 on the wheels.

For that matter, just go to a place that works on A/C VWs and buy a used set for $20/ea. 

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@dlearl476 posted:

For that matter, just go to a place that works on A/C VWs and buy a used set for $20/ea. 

Yep, get in your time machine and go back to the shop that works on A/C VWs. I'd set it for 1975 or so, when the last one in closed here in the rust belt.

i think i have a set of 4 lug wheel that you are looking for... give me a few days to dig them up. 

@Stan Galat posted:

Yep, get in your time machine and go back to the shop that works on A/C VWs. I'd set it for 1975 or so, when the last one in closed here in the rust belt.

What a shame. I have two here. One is about 5 blocks from the Air-cooled.net warehouse!

Yes, when talking about stock steel wheels, long axle 5.5" Spyder rears have a 50mm offset, and short axle 5.5" rears (and most speedster wheels) have a 25mm offset.  This means that long axle Spyder 5.5" rears have the centers "pushed out" 25mm more than short axles, or 25mm more wheel/tire tucked under the car.

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