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I think my motor may be trashed.  We took the car out this morning after putting that new starter in.  Drove it for about 20 minutes.  Everything seemed fined.  My wife dropped be back at home and she headed out to a friend's house.  About 2 miles from our house, the alternator drive belt broke.  She limped the car down the road for about a mile into a neighborhood.  I went and got a new belt and when I fired it up is sounded like a rod or value or something wasn't right.  I decided not to drive it.  I am waiting for a call back from a flat bed truck to pick it up and bring it home. I am really bummed out over this.  I thought I had fixed the last problem with the starter and we would be good to go.  Now it looks like I have to tear the whole thing back down again.

Sucks

 

 

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Do you have a screw in compression tester?  I'd do that first.  Just pull coil wire and do each spark plug and mark down cylinder and reading.  Then I'd remove the valve covers and look at push rods that popped loose or rockers that came loose.  You might see a valve stem that looks weird or doesn't move when you turn engine over with coil wire off.  Hopefully, just something needs tightening.  May the Force be with you.

Ted, Lane, and Greg have a good point; take the belt off and spin the alternator. If that's good then reach around and check that the fan isn't loose- it's a long shot, considering the circumstances, but the center hole does sometimes wear (it works fine for stock applications, but for higher rpm's and the speeds we can make it accelerate and decelerate it could use a more solid connection).

Start with pulling the valve covers and inspecting the valve train. Good luck. Al

PS- Maybe go on Youtube and listen to a VW engine with a rod knocking and see if it's the same noise you heard?

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Some information about the alternator could help to diagnose.

What brand of alternator? How many miles on the alternator?

With the belt removed, is there any play or wobble in the alternator shaft? Worn alternator bearings might cause these symptoms - and are more suspect since the problem started when the belt broke.

And while we're at it, what can you tell us about the engine - who built it, how many miles, is it gluten-free?

 

I was adjusting valves on VW engine one time and found one was way out of adjustment - turns out valve stem was stretching and about to have the valve head break off.  Often the stock rocker assembly breaks down and shifts too.  There are nice solid rocker shaft kits available.  Once removing the valve cover you could very well find a broken half of a wavy washer or a 13 mm nut sitting there.

So many possibilities.  Fan/alternator spins,check for play forward and back at the shaft.  Check your alternator pulley, many aftermarket ones crack at the hub. One should never drive it without a belt.  You can drive them without a oil cooler but they won't last very long with out a fan belt. 

Does the motor turn over ok by hand??

don't you just love all the we advice from all us back yard mechanics��

Or a piece of 1/4" wooden dowel held fast in your teeth (molars on one side of the mouth) with the far end of the dowel touched against whatever you want to hear. You'll hear things by bone conduction.

Stethoscopes are rare and over-rated. Wooden dowels are ubiquitous. And they work. Try it! (No, it won't be too loud, and you'll hear so much that you'll have to concentrate

I would like to hear the engine run without a fan belt, too. You can run for a minute or two+ without one. I'm also wondering if the alternator pulley was put on slightly cocked (the pulley, not the installer guy....). If it was, it may not wobble, BUT being slightly cocked might make the fan belt ride up and down on the pulley and it will make a strange rumble/rattle sound.

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