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Well Lane we were following the sale locally in South Africa and we also thought that it would go higher, it just kind of stopped.

One thing that I have noticed is that built air-cooled engines in a 356 replica sell for more money than a well sorted water-pumper. Maybe that's the common denominator?

The speedster replica world is a strange one and the purists exist in there too. I'm on the outside, I'm looking in........

Your car was bloody perfection......

Once the car gets really heavy to me the stick gets less attractive to drive.  I have tried a 733i 1986 and I drove it and it just felt like a big boat and a slush stick.   A 1983 350SL felt the same so automatic was more appreciated. in any case as it gets bigger it gets less fun to row IMO, on the other hand a friend owned a 1974 RR silver shadow which he liked a lot for cruising the 401 I guess long distance driving was it's real strength.

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@Bob: IM S6 posted:

Yes, it's unique, but I wouldn't want it, and I am not a P purist.

It's an automatic - what fun is that?

I don't like the botched interior.

It's a Targa.

Three strikes and it's out.

You would think I'd be all about this, being 500 cubic inches of love and all (as well as a thumb in the eye of the "Excellence" crowd), but I struggle for all the reasons Bob lists above.

Slush-box swaps in pretty much anything leaves me flat. Ray's right - the bigger a car gets, the less offensive they become... but there's always a bit of offense there when the machine decides it's time to change gears. This is a 911 though - a tiny car - a SPORTS car. There's zero reason for one here, except laziness - both in construction and operation.

I was going to talk about how the cut floors and upholstery looked like a beaver gnawed a home for that Caddy, but Bob beat me to it.

... and yeah, Targa.

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That Cad swap is basically what I wanted to do to my '78 Civic I bought for $50 in college, except I wanted to keep the 1200cc engine and drivetrain up front  for sleeper purposes.

I'd roll into the Duchess, absorb the taunts from the Cuda/Camaro boys, maybe roll out of the car clumsily amid a pile of spent Budweiser cans, and start talkin' real big...

I'd lift the hood and show off the header and a chrome air cleaner cover.

Oh the laughs I would've got with the big slicks in back, where they "cain't do ya no good."

You can guess the rest.

@DannyP posted:

That was very cool.

There was a rear engine V8 911 at one of my autocross events some years ago. About a 450 hp aluminum V8 in it. It did very well, and the engine is very similar to a stock one in dressed weight. The car gained water weight, radiator, and such. But I still liked it. I know the snobs didn't. Who cares!

Renegade has been doing regular rear-engined versions for a while now. They used to do 914s and Transaxle cars exclusively but catastrophic IMS engine failures, and the advent of the all aluminum LS,  opened up a market for “911” models as well.


https://www.renegadehybrids.com/911ls.html

IMO, A cleaner install than an original factory M-96 motor.

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@Bob: IM S6 posted:

It's a targa

I, too, used to eschew the lowly targa. But after 30 years of riding motorcycles, I’ll never buy another closed top vehicle again. If I were to ever buy a “real” Porsche again, outside of an 80’s Carrera Cab, it would have to be a Targa. If I ever win the lottery, it would be a 65-67 soft window targa with a twin plug 2.7 RSR motor and 911R disc brakes. (Hey, a guy can dream, right?)



In related Targa noise: I’m seriously contemplating selling both my Spyder and my 968 and building something like this:

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@dlearl476 posted:

Renegade has been doing regular rear-engined versions for a while now. They used to do 914s and Transaxle cars exclusively but catastrophic IMS engine failures, and the advent of the all aluminum LS,  opened up a market for “911” models as well.


https://www.renegadehybrids.com/911ls.html

IMO, A cleaner install than an original factory M-96 motor.

And here I thought I was doing well.

Those 911 conversions to small-block Chevy engines have been around for a while and from more places than just Renegade.  There are a couple that show up at Cars and Coffee events near me and there was one from Bluffton, SC that showed up at the Club Day at the Hilton Head Concours.  The small block compares very favorably in weight and the full conversions cost about half of just a new Porsche 6 engine, alone.

@dlearl476 posted:

Renegade has been doing regular rear-engined versions for a while now. They used to do 914s and Transaxle cars exclusively but catastrophic IMS engine failures, and the advent of the all aluminum LS,  opened up a market for “911” models as well.


https://www.renegadehybrids.com/911ls.html

IMO, A cleaner install than an original factory M-96 motor.

Well that gives some with a 6cyl an upgrade option

Lane, here is an idea: do not short-sheet yourself.  If The Car settles in your mind and you might have to wait a bit to get it (you've had A LOT of experience with waiting, so know how to do that), well OK.  One can rent exotics like Caymans and Boxsters, etc. and that might be a good way to properly lead the pack on Tour d'Smo, VA-WVA version.  Just sayin'.  I did some research on this "exotic" rental business -- its possible. A bit pricey, but hey, its only money.

Alas everything may be on hold for a bit.  I found out last week that I am getting bit by the "Government pulled back some of the funding" monster, and as the most expensive member of the software team (albeit the most productive IMHO) I am among those being defunded in a few weeks.  While I have more than enough cash now to buy the most likely candidate (M240i) I will probably wait to see how this settles out first.

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Ouch, Lane. Just ouch.

At least the corporate world has made great progress in not saying what they're uncomfortable with.

I was 'defunded' in the early '80s, but it was long before newspeak and nonspeak had evolved into the powerfully evasive and sensitive tools they are now.

I was just bluntly told that I was being 'laid off' (always the passive voice, though — no one was admitting to actively doing any laying off). And there was, of course, the implied possibility in that language that I might very well be laid back on again when things improved.

Still, in all the years since, I can't remember ever reading any headlines about hundreds being laid on down at the Navy Yard or at Roebling Steel.

I can't tell you how much better I would have felt if I'd known I had merely been defunded.

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No matter how independent you think you are there is always someone to answer to. I’m an equal partner in a physician owned group. But I’m always answering to my partners, my patients, hospital administrators etc. etc. You can never truly be free until you can leave it all behind. But maintaining the same standard of living with no true income is almost impossible. Afraid I’ll probably be beholden to someone or something until my mind goes or the reaper comes to collect. But I hope to be driving in style until then. Get the car you want Lane. Life’s too short. You’ll work it out. You need something to put that wide grin on your face. We all do.

I dunno', Phil - I feel like you maybe never had a boss in the "I own you" sense of the title. Maybe you did in the military, I don't know. But for me - the difference between pleasing customers and pleasing a boss was the difference between really liking what I do and hating to get up in the morning.

It took about two weeks for me to be completely wrecked for working for somebody else. Of course there are people to answer to - there always will be. There's a difference, though, between answering to people and being bound by them. The more independent I get, the more I enjoy my life.

I agree about the car, though. Life slips away - someday it's too late to enjoy the thing you've been waiting for.

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Someone somewhere always sets a standard of conduct or rule, that is true but, governing your conduct and schedule and determining what your services are worth is a fine dance where the powers to be can play havoc on your lifestyle and your abilities to earn reasonable returns on your investments.  It does force you to select what you do with care,  and which group will provide you with market protection… think unions associations.

True all dat . . . or be retired.  I worked in a large (3,000) organization that honored individualism and cultivated excellence in all things.  I had many bosses, and as things progressed became one, sort of.  Middle management.  My contributions were honored and respected, the work was gratifying, for the most part.  I walked in right out of school and walked out 40 some odd years later.  No significant complaints.

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