Speaking of SAS ...

The photo is the rear suspension of an SAS car per the SAS website.  Does anybody know if SAS makes their own rear suspension components?  Or have them made?  Or is this a suspension from a donor vehicle?  And if anybody is currently driving an SAS with this rear suspension, how is it working out?

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It’s OK, Jethro.  We know Lawing built some well-constructed cars.  He was just inconsistent.

I saw your car several times when it lived in Rhode Island and admired how good it looked (and believe me, I looked all over it a couple of times).  It had the usual SAS eccentricities, like the second dash in the frunk) and qI do not know how many things the original owner had to have fixed.  I know of several but never kept close touch about it - It wasn’t my car, after all.  I do know that he probably did not do the work, if any - He was not a hands on wrench, in my mind, and there were health issues involved, too, IIRC.

It seems, however, that Lawing began to rush them through his shop at some point in time and his product quality suffered.  That may have happened pretty early, too, as I often heard of people arranging for a trip through Knoxville to get things fixed on their SAS cars on their way either to/from Carlisle or to/from home from somewhere.  That included a number of visits over time for “Geraldine’s” car, but some of that could have been for semi-regular maintenance or upgrades or whatever, I don’t know.  Again, not my car, so little interest, there.

Anyway, he was building all sorts of cars in his cluttered shop (I’ve been there), many of them customs or Hot Rods (and those clients have their own set of problems with Lawing).  The owner of that Ivory coupe Wolfgang mentioned had had other cars built there over years but seemed to be a patient supporter of Lawing’s.  I guess he had his own reasons - I surely would not have been that understanding, but that’s me and I’m not him.

If I were to own one of his gems, my only big concern would be (a.) understanding the design, where everything is in the car and its’ original source/placement and (b.) how to fix just about everything on the car, because nobody else is gonna understand it , either.  AS I recall, no detailed service manual was included as it was thought that “you could just take it to a Subaru dealer for drivetrain service”.  Sorta true, but even when they find something in the diagnostics, where that piece might be in the car compared to, say, an Impreza’s similar part, could be totally different.  It might take a lot of work, at times, to simply find the source of a problem and THEN you have to figure out how to service it.  It goes on and on.

So don’t be overly sensitive, J-Man.  Sorted SAS cars are in a class by themselves, true, but so are Subaru-powered IM’s, like Peter Venuti’s and others, Suby-powered JPS cars and so on.  All are custom cars at different levels of quality design and completion.  I would say, though, that SAS cars are probably not cars for the oil and gas only type of owner, as sooner or later they will need some attention, just like all custom cars.  It’s great that you have been able to maintain your car by yourself.

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Robert M posted:
jenzbenz207 posted:

Just checking in.
Any updates on anyone's progress or ability to collect owed money?


No.

Did you get a lawyer?

We have a lawyer, recommended here, and even he has a hard time calling us back. I can't explain how goddamn frustrating all this is.

jenzbenz207 posted:
Robert M posted:
jenzbenz207 posted:

Just checking in.
Any updates on anyone's progress or ability to collect owed money?


No.

Did you get a lawyer?

We have a lawyer, recommended here, and even he has a hard time calling us back. I can't explain how goddamn frustrating all this is.

 I don’t have a dog in this fight. I’m just a member here on the forum and have been keeping track of the saga. 

Robert M posted:
jenzbenz207 posted:
Robert M posted:
jenzbenz207 posted:

Just checking in.
Any updates on anyone's progress or ability to collect owed money?


No.

Did you get a lawyer?

We have a lawyer, recommended here, and even he has a hard time calling us back. I can't explain how goddamn frustrating all this is.

 I don’t have a dog in this fight. I’m just a member here on the forum and have been keeping track of the saga. 

Sorry if you think I implied that you did. My original question and responding comment was spoken outloud for everyone, not just you directly.

Good luck to everyone!

 

 

Jim Kelly posted:

Jimmy V,

Bankruptcy's purpose is not to protect creditors, it's to protect the debtor.  When Lawing was faced with a $420,000 judgment about 10 years ago for defrauding a different bunch of car guys, he went BK and never paid a dime of the judgement.  Sounds kind of like someone in our current administration, eh?  Is this a great country or what?

Not sure where you're seeing his ad, since Theron cancelled his ad a few years ago.  I don't see it on my screen.

Hi where can I find more info pertaining to this $420,000 case against Lawing?
Thanks

Stephen W. Lawing declared bankruptcy in the Eastern Tennessee Bankruptcy Court (www.tneb.uscourts.gov).  The case was finally settled in 2012. 

Warning: To access BK Court records, you will need to join PACER, the public access system to court records, an onerous process that will force you to reconsider your position on anarchy as a viable form of government.

I’m withJethro here also. Did not know who SAS was and just wanted Subaru in the build. I did read a little about the.  

I do like it a lot. Would have been nice to have build sheets etc. it almost sorted and have more fun with it. 

Sas did help the first few months of ownership and lost contact after. 

 

 

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